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4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

In a team of excellent performances I still thought he shone brighter than everyone except Trippier. I'm slightly surprised there hasn't been more credit given to him tbh, he was relentless.

One of the lads I watched it with slagged him off all game and repeatedly called for him to be replaced. Some people are watching him and seeing what they want to see. 

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7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

In a team of excellent performances I still thought he shone brighter than everyone except Trippier. I'm slightly surprised there hasn't been more credit given to him tbh, he was relentless.

 

People despise him for some reason

 

People were claiming we faked an injury for him to take him off at half time against Forest 

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14 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

In a team of excellent performances I still thought he shone brighter than everyone except Trippier. I'm slightly surprised there hasn't been more credit given to him tbh, he was relentless.

I thought it at the time with the eye test, but when you look at his numbers from the game they’re exactly what you’d want from Maxi in this team. He was pretty flawless to be honest. Right up there with Trippier on the day.

 

Hope he keeps working hard on his fitness so he can be sharp for longer in the games. That’s the main downside with him.

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I love Maxi and I'm glad to see he's put in a number of good performances recently (Wolves, Man-U), this idea that some people have that he can't play for Howe was always ludicrous to me and we are seeing a slightly different Maxi

 

Also the clamour from some to sell him was strange, almost like the concept of having a squad is strange to them (maybe still reeling from Mike Ashley) 

 

Our squad will improve when we get rid of the weakest members (Ritchie, Lewis etc) not being getting rid of one of out better players who also is unique in what he brings to the squad

 

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I'd like him to be more effective in games against lesser opposition, I think that's the next thing we need to work on

 

No surprise his best performances have been against Liverpool, Man Utd and Man City this season

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22 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

People despise him for some reason

 

People were claiming we faked an injury for him to take him off at half time against Forest 

 

Yeah, I’ve seen it plenty on here and elsewhere online. Some people seem to have a preference for sounding clueless over ever giving him credit.

 

I was watching All With Smiling Faces earlier and Chris, who’s normally the most level-headed on there said that he completely lost his shit with the people around him at SJP on Sunday who were constantly slagging ASM off, even to the extent of blaming him for Burn not passing him the ball and then losing it :lol:

 

Anyone watching his performance on Sunday and slagging him when he’s got an assist, created at least 3 other situations that should have been assists, and beat their full back all game, really stretches the concept of everyone being entitled to their opinion to the limit like. I’d say it’s not even really their opinion – they’re either not watching or have an agenda.

 

As Dekka on the podcast said though, we’ve had this for years, whether it’s ASM, Ben Arfa, Robert, Ginola – any player with a bit of skill seems to invite the ire of a section of our fans and it doesn’t matter how good they are, how good their end product is, how often they do the things they claim they don’t (in ASM’s case tracking back and pressing) they’ll never give them credit and would prefer to have a grafter who produces nothing.

 

Obviously that doesn’t mean all criticism of ASM is unfair, in case it’s misunderstood as that by anyone reading.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, joeyt said:

I'd like him to be more effective in games against lesser opposition, I think that's the next thing we need to work on

 

No surprise his best performances have been against Liverpool, Man Utd and Man City this season

Feel like he’s been in and out of the team so much this season that we haven’t really had chance to get him in the pitch with Bruno, Willock and Isak (+Almiron!) at the same time in those kind of games.

 

One of the features of our play on Sunday was flooding the right so that we could isolate ASM 1v1 against Dalot and it worked really well. We have more threats for the opposition to deal with now so they won’t be able to double and triple up on Maxi.

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Him potentially finding top form as well as working collectively with the others will/can make a massive difference for us trying to secure a CL place.

 

Along with some momentum, Isak, Bruno back to his best as well as having decent options off the bench now plus many other things of course.

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I think the issue is not about if he stays but more if he is happy being a squad player as we improve the 1st 11 that's the destiny for those getting game time. Multiple competitions potentially next season there will be games he will be perfect for. If he wants to be the main man starting whenever fit I don't see it so much anymore.  

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1 hour ago, nufcjmc said:

I think the issue is not about if he stays but more if he is happy being a squad player as we improve the 1st 11 that's the destiny for those getting game time. Multiple competitions potentially next season there will be games he will be perfect for. If he wants to be the main man starting whenever fit I don't see it so much anymore.  

I don’t see why a fit ASM shouldn’t be considered a starter. When he was out of the team we had Burn, Willock and Joelinton on the left being very solid, but not producing much and as a team we relied on Almiron being in the form of his life. Now, with Almiron out it’s ASM in the Almiron role and Murphy keeping the right wing ticking over without producing much in terms of chances. Surely we’re allowed to have more than one creative first choice winger in our squad, especially one that seems on the same wave length as our best center forward? Also this frees up Willock and Joelinton for midfield positions that better suit their skill set.

Personally I can’t wait to see a front three of Almiron, ASM and Isak. Good luck with doubling up on that lineup.

 

 

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It felt like he was tactically on it on Sunday both positionally and his choice of passes. Did the same move a couple of times where he looked to slide the late running midfielder in at the edge of the box. With better finishing he’d of had at least three assists. 
 

Was the first time in a long time he looked like he wasn’t trying to avoid aggravating an injury. 

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9 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

I don’t see why a fit ASM shouldn’t be considered a starter. When he was out of the team we had Burn, Willock and Joelinton on the left being very solid, but not producing much and as a team we relied on Almiron being in the form of his life. Now, with Almiron out it’s ASM in the Almiron role and Murphy keeping the right wing ticking over without producing much in terms of chances. Surely we’re allowed to have more than one creative first choice winger in our squad, especially one that seems on the same wave length as our best center forward? Also this frees up Willock and Joelinton for midfield positions that better suit their skill set.

Personally I can’t wait to see a front three of Almiron, ASM and Isak. Good luck with doubling up on that lineup.

 

 

 

 

I think right now he is trying hard to be part of how the team plays less running into blind spaces and looking to pass to the team. Right now I think he should be starting when fit unless its for a tactical reason however he doesn't score and therefore could be improved upon.

 

Is he the first out the door in a continued rebuild no but if we bought a better player we will have to ask ourselves do you sell to offset FFP or do you keep, in some cases the choice may be made for us as the player is unwilling to play a bit part role. We will naturally buy better players but if Europe does become a regular thing we need a stronger squad of players. Thats why from Eddie's comments can be true without the thought as well that if a player becomes available they wont go for it despite what that means for Maxi's place. 

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I have no idea what that means, or how it’s different to any of our other first team players, of which we thankfully now have more than merely XI. I don’t think any of our players is irreplaceable. If an offer too good to refuse comes in for any of them, and/or they are not committed to the game plan or the amount of game time the manager can offer, they will be let go and replaced. That’s just sensible business, and I have complete trust in the people in charge to have shadow lists available for any of our players, even if the hope for some of them is to build the team around them as we progress in our project. ASM may or may not be part of that, same as for any other player.

 

 

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For me it just means when some fans say he's shit get rid and others say I hope he stays the managers comments don't mean he is a garenteed starter much like Alimron getting a new deal we want these players around for squad building but don't panic if your on the side they aren't good enough to start every game they won't. 

 

I like all our midfield except to get to the next level we need more goals from midfield. 

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I don't know if he'll be here next year but you absolutely can't argue with the effort he's put into trying to become the kind of player that fits into an Eddie Howe team. So much of it is counter to his instincts as a player but he's really putting in the work.

 

Sunday was a glimpse of what could be for him if he stays here. Had a great balance of playing with his head up and knowing when to take players on. Pressed well as part of the front three too. He still needs to work on his movement off the ball but no reason he can't develop that part of his game too. I'd also love to see him absolutely dedicate himself to building his fitness levels up over the summer.

 

If he does stay and play a key role over the coming years then there'll be an argument to be made that it'll be Howe's finest bit of work. Obviously taking the likes of Joelinton and Almiron and turning them into quality PL players from the broken shells they were when he got here was incredible. However, taking a player who was individually thriving and getting him to buy into massively overhauling the way he plays and then having him come out the other end a radically changed player who can still thrive would be immense.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Shak said:

 

Sunday was a glimpse of what could be for him if he stays here. Had a great balance of playing with his head up and knowing when to take players on. Pressed well as part of the front three too. He still needs to work on his movement off the ball but no reason he can't develop that part of his game too. I'd also love to see him absolutely dedicate himself to building his fitness levels up over the summer.

 

He's definitely improved his decision making.

 

I'd like to see him play more on the shoulder of the full-back, looking for a through-ball. He always wants to come deep and take his man on from there which obviously he's very good at but it would add an extra dimension to his game if he could make runs in behind too.

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