LiquidAK Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Tbf to him he did score when presented with the opportunity - thought he looked dangerous but rusty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 If he had a bit more fortitude I'd be fully on board Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Holloway said: If he had a bit more fortitude I'd be fully on board If he gets 2+ semi-serious injuries next year i’m fully on board of letting him go. Edited May 13, 2023 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 3 hours ago, duo said: Sell - fed up of waiting for him to show his worth. Just lacks a football brain. Fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Pata said: He did more in 20 minutes than Almiron did in 70 minutes but I don't see his thread bumped with this 'not good enough' and 'sell him' shite. Some people just have this weird fixation with ASM. I wouldn’t be upset to see both upgraded in the summer. I doubt we will, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: I did much prefer HBA and I understand the frustrations with ASM’s constant injuries. But it feels like we are all doing what Pardew did with HBA, when it comes to ASM. Not getting something from him, despite only getting a 20-30 minute cameo and he’s always the scapegoat. Not the fucker that was on before him and also achieved fuck all from out wide in twice the amount of time. He’s an unpredictable, low percentage flair player. His game really hasn’t changed that much over the years. I don’t fully understand the shift in opinion with ASM. I guess the change in system and success? We used to rely on him under Bruce, we barely picked up any points without him he was pretty much a one man show in a tactic less side. Now we are well drilled and successful and play as a unit. His flaws are a lot more noticeable and we rely less on his individual brilliance. When you are down the bottom you can afford the star player a run in the side to get sharp and back to his best but it's a lot harder when you're fighting for a champions league spot. Feel for him as he's trying to adapt and putting in effort but it's hard when he's constantly injured or unfit and having to make up for it in short cameos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Now a player we can do without. Squad player at best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 14 hours ago, duo said: Sell - fed up of waiting for him to show his worth. Just lacks a football brain. What does that actually mean? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Weird comments in here. He’s got to be starting in the remaining games if he’s fit. It’s a better balance for the team, he’s a genuine threat - even yesterday despite being off pace on a really heavy pitch. That Isak LW experiment needs to end. Also if they offside goal is given and we go 3-1 up the people that are desperate to jump on him all the time are saying absolutely f all about his performance. A Leeds equaliser shouldn’t shift the narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 3 hours ago, GWN said: Now a player we can do without. Squad player at best Not sure about that, we already need at least one other top quality wide forward. Maybe 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 3 hours ago, GWN said: Now a player we can do without. Squad player at best He’s still currently our best winger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 He’s really not a player who benefits from being in and out of the side. His injuries are the major issue with him. If he’s going to pick up niggling injuries multiple times a season then he’s just not going to work for us as he always comes back a yard short to begin with and rusty with his link up play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Saw something on twitter which made a very good point. When he plays he makes the opposition full back unable to sit high up the pitch, as well as often causing defenders to double up on him which obviously creates space elsewhere for us. Even if he's not playing well he seems to cause more panic for the opposition than when Isak or Joelinton plays there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Keep him as we won’t get much for him anyway. Hopefully some sort of specialist can improve his fitness and at least make him a bit more reliable for next season. Sign one top class ready to go wide player along with a young diamond like Arda Guler and our options are looking pretty good out wide. Especially if Gordon can start showing next season that he’s worth anywhere near 45m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ikon said: Keep him as we won’t get much for him anyway. Hopefully some sort of specialist can improve his fitness and at least make him a bit more reliable for next season. Sign one top class ready to go wide player along with a young diamond like Arda Guler and our options are looking pretty good out wide. Especially if Gordon can start showing next season that he’s worth anywhere near 45m. Do we really need another winger? We already got ASM, Gordon, Almiron and Murphy who are pure wingers. On top of that we got Joelinton, Willock and Isak who can fill in when needed. There is a lot of other positions we should prioritize. Left back we only have Burn who is playing out of position and has been looking shaky lately and Targett who clearly hasn't shown enough to Howe that he should play, when he did it looked bad tbh. Centre back we need a young talent who can fill in and eventually replace Schär over time. Same with right back and Trippier. I know we got Ashby, but perhaps aim a little higher than someone who has played 1 premier league game in his career. Centre midfield we only have 4 players to fill in 3 positions. Need atleast a couple in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster Edited May 14, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ikon said: We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster I’d sell Almiron if a decent offer came in tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) It’s The Gordon signing that doesn’t really fit. Edited May 14, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ikon said: We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster Agree to disagree then. Wouldn't say no to a top class reliable winger, but they dont come cheap and I think we should prioritize other positions this summer. Edited May 14, 2023 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Displayname said: Agree to disagree then. Wouldn't say no to a top class reliable winger, but they dont come cheap and I think we should prioritize other positions this summer. Fair enough. I just think and am 100% certain that we should and will sign one. But also get the other important positions solved. It doesn’t mean that we won’t fix other weak positions too. Pretty sure Howe knows that Miggy and Murphy won’t be long term 1st team starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Thought we looked better with him on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Thought our shape was better but ASM himself was pretty ineffective. He’d be a different player if he appreciated the opportunity of a one - two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 14/05/2023 at 14:13, Ikon said: We 100% definitely need a top class wide player. I see Almiron and Murphy as squad players at best. Despite their seasons. ASM isn’t reliable fitness wise. I would go for one transformational wide player and one youngster Getting in two wingers when we've recently spent 40m on one and have 4 first team wingers competing for 2 spots (and now also competing against Isak it seems) is crazy Besides keeper it's the last position we need to strengthen imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Conjo said: Getting in two wingers when we've recently spent 40m on one and have 4 first team wingers competing for 2 spots (and now also competing against Isak it seems) is crazy Besides keeper it's the last position we need to strengthen imo. We could do with a proper backup GK tbf. We'll need to sell a winger to get one in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Good luck finding a better back-up keeper than Dubs. Agree we need to sell one to get one in on the winger situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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