Rafalove Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Seems to be adding that to his game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Patrick Viera must be an idiot not to see the potential in this lad. Micah Richards said after the game that Vieira’s said he’s a great player but had doubts about his end product. Is the end product thing not just a myth because hes flamboyant. I mean, how much end product did Viera expect at that age. He should be kicking himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Fitness question marks mebs? Looking at the transfer window, no player like him has gone to any of the biggest clubs/biggest spenders. Only Chelsea but they had their targets set and wrapped up very early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 He’s still very hit and miss. One week he’s unplayable, but too often has performances that are pretty crap to be considered a top 4 player imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 He’s still very hit and miss. One week he’s unplayable, but too often has performances that are pretty crap to be considered a top 4 player imo. I disagree with this tbh. Whenever he’s been fit he’s usually been been good . Fitness is a worry though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The Brighton match was the first I’ve seen in ages where he just looked off the pace completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ASM or HBA? HBA for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He’s still very hit and miss. One week he’s unplayable, but too often has performances that are pretty crap to be considered a top 4 player imo. Pure bollocks. I can think of one bad game he has had. Every game he plays hes either our best player or one of our better players. It just seems an easy thing to say about a flamboyant winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He’s still very hit and miss. One week he’s unplayable, but too often has performances that are pretty crap to be considered a top 4 player imo. Pure bollocks. I can think of one bad game he has had. Every game he plays hes either our best player or one of our better players. It just seems an easy thing to say about a flamboyant winger. Yup, lazy analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He’s still very hit and miss. One week he’s unplayable, but too often has performances that are pretty crap to be considered a top 4 player imo. Pure bollocks. I can think of one bad game he has had. Every game he plays hes either our best player or one of our better players. It just seems an easy thing to say about a flamboyant winger. Yup, lazy analysis. Yeah, very lazy analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Farewell sweet prince. Sold today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Not difficult to be our best player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ASM or HBA? HBA for me. my kids have only seen HBA on youtube, and I'm always getting this question from them. ASM more pace and (arguably) more end product now. surrounded by shit. HBA was a fucking legend but also surrounded by a lot of quality. so you have to say ASM shading it. but its all about opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ASM or HBA? HBA for me. Ben Arfa is a more technically gifted player, but if they were both at their very best and surrounded by top players, I'd prefer to have ASM as his pace and power make him almost entirely unplayable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 my kids have only seen HBA on youtube, and I'm always getting this question from them. This just makes me feel old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ASM or HBA? HBA for me. my kids have only seen HBA on youtube, and I'm always getting this question from them. ASM more pace and (arguably) more end product now. surrounded by shit. HBA was a fucking legend but also surrounded by a lot of quality. so you have to say ASM shading it. but its all about opinions. I wouldnt say HBA was a legend like! Ideally HBA's ability with ASM's attitude and graft would have been the perfect combo. Take nowt away from ASM as he's clearly the dogs bollocks, but I always thought HBA was a lot more enjoyable to watch when he was in full flow. More easier on the eye and that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ASM or HBA? HBA for me. my kids have only seen HBA on youtube, and I'm always getting this question from them. ASM more pace and (arguably) more end product now. surrounded by shit. HBA was a fucking legend but also surrounded by a lot of quality. so you have to say ASM shading it. but its all about opinions. I wouldnt say HBA was a legend like! Ideally HBA's ability with ASM's attitude and graft would have been the perfect combo. Take nowt away from ASM as he's clearly the dogs bollocks, but I always thought HBA was a lot more enjoyable to watch when he was in full flow. More easier on the eye and that. nah, just personally for me. loved him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 ASM or HBA? HBA for me. ASM. I just like him more overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I’d say ASM’s decision making is better. He’s more consistent. Better team player. HBA clearly has/had better end product though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Still Ben Arfa easily for me. ASM is fantastic though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Probably haven't seen enough of ASM to make a fair judgement but HBA basically had it all. He was a fantastic passer of the ball in addition to sharing all the abilities ASM appears to have. Both are shite at defending. There's not much in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He’s still very hit and miss. One week he’s unplayable, but too often has performances that are pretty crap to be considered a top 4 player imo. Pure bollocks. I can think of one bad game he has had. Every game he plays hes either our best player or one of our better players. It just seems an easy thing to say about a flamboyant winger. Yup, lazy analysis. I mean, read through this thread yourself and there are numerous examples of his poor games. When I finish work I’ll drag them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Hatem a far better shooter too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Saint-Maximin is more likeable. Ben Arfa the more skilled, both had/have insane pace. Neither cross the ball particularly well given how strong they are in other areas and neither like tracking back. Laurent Robert had more end product than both put together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I preferred Ginola to Robert, don’t know if there’s a pattern there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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