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Guardian

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/newcastle-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-tv-piracy-ruling-released-by-wto-premier-league-pressure

 

The WTO report states the evidence it has seen supports Qatar’s assertions that: “a) beoutQ’s piracy was promoted by prominent Saudi nationals, (b) beoutQ targets the Saudi market, © beoutQ’s pirate broadcasts are transmitted via Arabsat satellite frequencies, and (d) beoutQ has received assistance from a Saudi content distributor in delivering its pirated broadcasts to Saudi consumers.

 

“Taking these conclusions together, and recalling the applicable standard of proof and evidentiary principles in WTO dispute settlement, the Panel considers that Qatar has established a prima facie case that beoutQ is operated by individuals or entities subject to the criminal jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia,” it adds.

 

"The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events"

 

But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts.

 

The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win.

 

I’m sure there’s another alternative however. Probably don’t need to go to ‘chopping arms off’ straight away.

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Guardian

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/newcastle-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-tv-piracy-ruling-released-by-wto-premier-league-pressure

 

The WTO report states the evidence it has seen supports Qatar’s assertions that: “a) beoutQ’s piracy was promoted by prominent Saudi nationals, (b) beoutQ targets the Saudi market, © beoutQ’s pirate broadcasts are transmitted via Arabsat satellite frequencies, and (d) beoutQ has received assistance from a Saudi content distributor in delivering its pirated broadcasts to Saudi consumers.

 

“Taking these conclusions together, and recalling the applicable standard of proof and evidentiary principles in WTO dispute settlement, the Panel considers that Qatar has established a prima facie case that beoutQ is operated by individuals or entities subject to the criminal jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia,” it adds.

 

"The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events"

 

But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts.

 

The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win.

but the premier league wouldn't give half a shit and would have rubber stamped the takeover months ago

 

You don’t want this takeover to go through do you, now you’re straw clutching.

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Here's how I see it:

 

Report won't derail the takeover but PL needs to protect it's IP, also need to keep broadcasters and other stakeholders happy that they are taking action in relation to the piracy that is originating from Saudi Arabia. 

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Total storm in a teacup that. You'd have thought at worst the PL will want assurances action is being taken.

 

No link mentioned between piracy and the Saudi gov, let alone PIF. No wonder Qatar are releasing their own interpretation.

except its pretty explicit SA won't take any action because that would benefit Qatar

 

Whether they take action or not won't be something the PL are bothered about anyway, BeoutQ is gone, surely all the PL would want to hear is that it won't happen again so all this shite shouldn't really matter to us.

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Here's how I see it:

 

Report won't derail the takeover but PL needs to protect it's IP, also need to keep broadcasters and other stakeholders happy that they are taking action in relation to the piracy that is originating from Saudi Arabia. 

 

been saying this for ages :thup:

 

if anything this helps them say to qatar "there's no smoking gun lads, soz"

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If this issue does prevent the takeover. How sad would it be that an intellectual property issue, which has been vastly overblown, would collapse the deal rather than the actually morally questionable human rights violations.

 

 

 

 

Which is getting on a moral high horse over the whole business was basically pissing in the wind. In our case a wind that was blowing in our faces so you end up drenched in a shower of urine.

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