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From my understanding......beoutQ were operating on a 'commercial scale' but KSA refused to do anything about them as they had cut ties with Qatar, citing security concerns. There is nothing as far as I can see linking the Saudi government or PFI to the piracy.

 

The report has basically said that the Saudis must comply and stop the piracy.

 

Is that it?

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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/newcastle-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-tv-piracy-ruling-released-by-wto-premier-league-pressure

 

The WTO report states the evidence it has seen supports Qatar’s assertions that: “a) beoutQ’s piracy was promoted by prominent Saudi nationals, (b) beoutQ targets the Saudi market, © beoutQ’s pirate broadcasts are transmitted via Arabsat satellite frequencies, and (d) beoutQ has received assistance from a Saudi content distributor in delivering its pirated broadcasts to Saudi consumers.

 

“Taking these conclusions together, and recalling the applicable standard of proof and evidentiary principles in WTO dispute settlement, the Panel considers that Qatar has established a prima facie case that beoutQ is operated by individuals or entities subject to the criminal jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia,” it adds.

 

"The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events"

 

But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts.

 

That's what I was thinking. Their headline is bullshit.

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up...down....up...down...............what does the WTO show.........depends on what you want it show it seems!

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Long and short of it seems to be that Saudi has stopped Qatar and others gaining legal redress in Saudi for breaches of intellectual property law. Further, that Saudi has not used its Criminal Law to punish those responsible for BeoutQ.

 

Hardly surprising.

 

Yeah, that's how I read the limited bits that have come out :thup:  Not so much about the piracy as the lack of response to the piracy

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Report moves us a step closer if anything. Sure some will protect their interests and agenda by putting a negative spin on it but it pretty much says nothing we didn’t know and that PIF have nothing to do with piracy.

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There is more than enough wiggle room in that report for the Premier League to ok the takeover, Luke Edwards reporting of this today was Ryder bad.

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Wonder if the questions the buyers were answering last week were in relation to the recommendations at the end of the report. As in what steps are they taking to allow criminal proceedings to be brought against BeOutQ.

 

I doubt the Premier League even saw the end of the report, more likely they were given the worst possible snippets by Qatar and have been waiting to put it all into context when their lawyers read the whole thing.

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Total storm in a teacup that. You'd have thought at worst the PL will want assurances action is being taken.

 

No link mentioned between piracy and the Saudi gov, let alone PIF. No wonder Qatar are releasing their own interpretation.

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The worst I see from that report -

 

BeoutQ was operated from Saudi Arabia and by Saudi nationals. It cannot be proven that it was the Saudi government.

 

Saudi government didn't do enough to find and prosecute those in charge.

 

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Total storm in a teacup that. You'd have thought at worst the PL will want assurances action is being taken.

 

No link mentioned between piracy and the Saudi gov, let alone PIF. No wonder Qatar are releasing their own interpretation.

except its pretty explicit SA won't take any action because that would benefit Qatar

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Wonder if the questions the buyers were answering last week were in relation to the recommendations at the end of the report. As in what steps are they taking to allow criminal proceedings to be brought against BeOutQ.

 

I doubt the Premier League even saw the end of the report, more likely they were given the worst possible snippets by Qatar and have been waiting to put it all into context when their lawyers read the whole thing.

 

This would make a bit of sense I think

 

Might be 2+2 = 5 though

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The worst I see from that report -

 

BeoutQ was operated from Saudi Arabia and by Saudi nationals. It cannot be proven that it was the Saudi government.

 

Saudi government didn't do enough to find and prosecute those in charge.

 

 

I think everyone knew that before the report in anycase.

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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/newcastle-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-tv-piracy-ruling-released-by-wto-premier-league-pressure

 

The WTO report states the evidence it has seen supports Qatar’s assertions that: “a) beoutQ’s piracy was promoted by prominent Saudi nationals, (b) beoutQ targets the Saudi market, © beoutQ’s pirate broadcasts are transmitted via Arabsat satellite frequencies, and (d) beoutQ has received assistance from a Saudi content distributor in delivering its pirated broadcasts to Saudi consumers.

 

“Taking these conclusions together, and recalling the applicable standard of proof and evidentiary principles in WTO dispute settlement, the Panel considers that Qatar has established a prima facie case that beoutQ is operated by individuals or entities subject to the criminal jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia,” it adds.

 

"The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events"

 

But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts.

 

The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win.

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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/newcastle-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-tv-piracy-ruling-released-by-wto-premier-league-pressure

 

The WTO report states the evidence it has seen supports Qatar’s assertions that: “a) beoutQ’s piracy was promoted by prominent Saudi nationals, (b) beoutQ targets the Saudi market, © beoutQ’s pirate broadcasts are transmitted via Arabsat satellite frequencies, and (d) beoutQ has received assistance from a Saudi content distributor in delivering its pirated broadcasts to Saudi consumers.

 

“Taking these conclusions together, and recalling the applicable standard of proof and evidentiary principles in WTO dispute settlement, the Panel considers that Qatar has established a prima facie case that beoutQ is operated by individuals or entities subject to the criminal jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia,” it adds.

 

"The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events"

 

But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts.

 

The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win.

but the premier league wouldn't give half a shit and would have rubber stamped the takeover months ago

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