St1pe Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/newcastle-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-tv-piracy-ruling-released-by-wto-premier-league-pressure The WTO report states the evidence it has seen supports Qatar’s assertions that: “a) beoutQ’s piracy was promoted by prominent Saudi nationals, (b) beoutQ targets the Saudi market, © beoutQ’s pirate broadcasts are transmitted via Arabsat satellite frequencies, and (d) beoutQ has received assistance from a Saudi content distributor in delivering its pirated broadcasts to Saudi consumers. “Taking these conclusions together, and recalling the applicable standard of proof and evidentiary principles in WTO dispute settlement, the Panel considers that Qatar has established a prima facie case that beoutQ is operated by individuals or entities subject to the criminal jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia,” it adds. "The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events" But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts. The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win. I’m sure there’s another alternative however. Probably don’t need to go to ‘chopping arms off’ straight away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/16/newcastle-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-tv-piracy-ruling-released-by-wto-premier-league-pressure The WTO report states the evidence it has seen supports Qatar’s assertions that: “a) beoutQ’s piracy was promoted by prominent Saudi nationals, (b) beoutQ targets the Saudi market, © beoutQ’s pirate broadcasts are transmitted via Arabsat satellite frequencies, and (d) beoutQ has received assistance from a Saudi content distributor in delivering its pirated broadcasts to Saudi consumers. “Taking these conclusions together, and recalling the applicable standard of proof and evidentiary principles in WTO dispute settlement, the Panel considers that Qatar has established a prima facie case that beoutQ is operated by individuals or entities subject to the criminal jurisdiction of Saudi Arabia,” it adds. "The World Trade Organisation has ruled that Saudi Arabia was behind a pirate satellite TV and streaming service that illegally broadcast sporting events" But they haven't though, have they? They've established that Saudi Arabia didn't do enough to stop it, not that SA was behind the illegal broadcasts. The same people would be complaining if the Saudis had caught those behind beoutQ and chopped their arms off (or whatever they do to pirates over there). Can't win. but the premier league wouldn't give half a shit and would have rubber stamped the takeover months ago You don’t want this takeover to go through do you, now you’re straw clutching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Here's how I see it: Report won't derail the takeover but PL needs to protect it's IP, also need to keep broadcasters and other stakeholders happy that they are taking action in relation to the piracy that is originating from Saudi Arabia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Total storm in a teacup that. You'd have thought at worst the PL will want assurances action is being taken. No link mentioned between piracy and the Saudi gov, let alone PIF. No wonder Qatar are releasing their own interpretation. except its pretty explicit SA won't take any action because that would benefit Qatar Whether they take action or not won't be something the PL are bothered about anyway, BeoutQ is gone, surely all the PL would want to hear is that it won't happen again so all this shite shouldn't really matter to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I can't help but get the feeling everyone's jumping the gun here. Possibly but how? Just a gut feeling more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Fuck, who's been manning the planes since this report came out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Good thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I can't help but get the feeling everyone's jumping the gun here. Does anyone have a conclusion? I haven't seen one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExiledGeordie Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 ? ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe_F Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 #cansadjacent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Here's how I see it: Report won't derail the takeover but PL needs to protect it's IP, also need to keep broadcasters and other stakeholders happy that they are taking action in relation to the piracy that is originating from Saudi Arabia. been saying this for ages if anything this helps them say to qatar "there's no smoking gun lads, soz" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRon Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 If this issue does prevent the takeover. How sad would it be that an intellectual property issue, which has been vastly overblown, would collapse the deal rather than the actually morally questionable human rights violations. Which is getting on a moral high horse over the whole business was basically pissing in the wind. In our case a wind that was blowing in our faces so you end up drenched in a shower of urine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Are those Sports Direct hoardings in the skip yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I’m all in now like. Bring on our new human rights abusing piracy enabling overlords. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Another non-committal quote from Masters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carrick18 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Edwards, at his shit-stirring best again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 One of these is talking BS, and I know who I'm inclined to believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Another non-committal quote from Masters Meanwhile the club just continues in Limbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Edwards finally proving he is on the wind up then because the report doesn’t say that at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Yeah, doesn't actually say that does it Luke. Nice try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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