et tu brute Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: The Saudi deal is the only one that works for Ashley because they’re willing and able to vastly overpay, which will reduce/removal Ashley’s usual clauses for all other buyers. And to get a helping hand for introduction into the middle east market, which is why he is fighting like mad to legally push it through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: The Saudi deal is the only one that works for Ashley because they’re willing and able to vastly overpay, which will reduce/removal Ashley’s usual clauses for all other buyers. I think the Saudi's are the only party willing to pay what Ashley is asking. To be fair he's selling it for over double what he paid and he's sold all the assets. Hence making it worth less. The clubs worth no where near what he wants but the Saudi's obviously have more money than sense. That's what's so gutting about all of this, we've a chance to be competing against the best clubs in the world and a few little pricks at the PL don't want it for whatever reason. They're obviosly in someones pocket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I still think it's worth £300 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddles mullet Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Can’t believe other parties would be interested, load of Kak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, Ben said: I still think it's worth £300 million That's only 3 Jack Grealishs at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Ben said: I still think it's worth £300 million How come? That's really not intending that to be an aggressive question, by the way. I know a bit about finance, and due diligence, but when it comes to buying football clubs all logic flies out of the window to me. Couldn't value NUFC or any football club if you paid me, and I've read all our last filed accounts for 4 years. Like, just for fun. Football clubs are the ultimate casino purchase, with so many assumptions that you might as well spin a wheel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 John Textor has just paid 87.5 million for an 18% stake in Palace. Sure there is a London premium but this doesn’t make Ashley’s valuation of 340 look unreasonable in my opinion. The trouble is he is clearly a hard man to do business with and ultimately when was the last time a 300 million plus deal was done for a PL club. Staveley is absolutely right there is not many people out there with the finance to buy a PL club and then invest to grow it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Abacus said: How come? That's really not intending that to be an aggressive question, by the way. I know a bit about finance, and due diligence, but when it comes to buying football clubs all logic flies out of the window to me. Couldn't value NUFC or any football club if you paid me, and I've read all our last filed accounts for 4 years. Like, just for fun. Football clubs are the ultimate casino purchase, with so many assumptions that you might as well spin a wheel. Using my basic maths the stadium and training ground, player values and TV contracts must be worth £300 million, there must be a way to run the club like a organised German, Dutch or Spanish team that invests in the academy and scouting network using a moneyball system. The problem is Ashley's penny pinching method and zero long term thinking, he runs it to stay in the league for the TV money and that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) This would be interesting and change things if true and related to us of course. Edited August 22, 2021 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 "A corporation sole is an individual person who represents an official position which has a single separate legal entity. The death of the individual will not affect the corporation as there is a right of succession. The Crown, bishops, deans, vicars and the Lord Mayor of London are examples of a corporation sole." I remember PAUK doing the rounds on Twitter, if not here, the day it was incorporated. Around the time the McLaren talk of PIF investing in that surfaced. McLaren Group Ltd https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10720174/persons-with-significant-control - "1 active person with significant control, The Government Of The Kingdom Of Bahrain..." its legal form also a corporation sole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Whilst I have no idea what that means, if it was that simple, why wouldn’t they have done that 12 months ago? I’m sure these really expensive lawyers we’re paying for would’ve thought that’d be an option, compared to George on Twitter. Fairly sure this info isn’t ‘new’ and was rebuffed by one of the local rags a month or two ago too, although can’t remember which one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Yeah, I'm inclined to agree - any "easy" wins would have happened by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 PIF have always wanted to come in through the front door. Wishful thinking but maybe they have accepted that’s not possible and gone down the City route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Jinx Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 If that was the case (I’m highly dubious) how long would it take to restructure a deal and make a submission to the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 It does seem to have been created at around the time they invested into McLaren so more likely to be related to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) I guess until the company files something, it's totally up in the air what its intended use is. Which makes speculating a little pointless as it could easily turn out to be something totally unlinked to us. Saying that I remember Cantervale Holdings being set up and there being interest around that, January 2018 just before Staveley bid 1 collapsed. That's the company that has a charge with the Reubens. Edited August 22, 2021 by nbthree3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 16 hours ago, ManDoon said: Yeah agreed I just hate the “well no one wants to buy us” line. Every other club manages to get sold without incident, it’s Ashley that causes the fuck ups There may be people that are interested in owning the club but, due to the fat cunt, have no desire to buy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Ben said: Using my basic maths the stadium and training ground, player values and TV contracts must be worth £300 million, there must be a way to run the club like a organised German, Dutch or Spanish team that invests in the academy and scouting network using a moneyball system. The problem is Ashley's penny pinching method and zero long term thinking, he runs it to stay in the league for the TV money and that's it. And the global advertising. Don't forget the global advertising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Finally, something positive to post in this thread. It's 2 days into September already! Ps- This thread was found floating and motionless on page 2. Edited September 2, 2021 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Finally, something positive to post in this thread. It's 2 days into September already! Ps- This thread was found floating and motionless on page 2. The Amigos have had a difficult week to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: The Amigos have had a difficult week to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Last post before mine was 23 August, 2 weeks ago. Pity the The Amigos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Finally, something positive to post in this thread. It's 2 days into September already! Ps- This thread was found floating and motionless on page 2. That's because most of us on both threads are just doing the simple W A I T thing !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Better dig out your copy of War and Peace then because it's going to be a long wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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