Mattoon Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 It's a no brainer bringing him here, so I don't think it'll happen. I'm also worried ASM will want to go this summer. Without those 2 I can't see us surviving next season if something doesn't happen with this perpetual takeover saga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Wilson, Willock, Almiron, ASM and Dubravka and possibly Frasier if fit are all quality and if we could just add likewise quality around them, we will have a very very good team only needing a decent manager, wonder what Rafa is upto these days... fuck my life, our club man, urghhhh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 All the more frustrating when you consider the fact Rafa, is pretty much as desperate to manage NUFC( a proper version of it) as we are to have him. His recent interview all but confirmed that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rafalove said: All the more frustrating when you consider the fact Rafa, is pretty much as desperate to manage NUFC( a proper version of it) as we are to have him. His recent interview all but confirmed that. Aye, we will be the ‘one’ that got away for him sadly and indeed for us as a club and fans too. Edited May 20, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Poor Steve just gets nowt to work with. Done a truly remarkable job given the constraints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 53 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: So you don't think he's developed or been successful since he came here? He's developed more here in 6 months than so called big club "super league" Arsenal. And his success might not be winning anything with us, but he's just joined some big names among our records in the goals per game stats. I know why you would say this, but its not always better to be a so called success at so called big clubs, ask Loic Remy/Demba Ba/Yohan Cabaye, they were all better players with us than with or where the so called success is.?? He has probably developed a bit just through playing more. That will happen, but it’ll never bring him on as much as playing plus good coaching. He could go to any number of better clubs and still start games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: He has probably developed a bit just through playing more. That will happen, but it’ll never bring him on as much as playing plus good coaching. He could go to any number of better clubs and still start games. I can't see anyone with more domestic success than his parent club signing him. So that rules out the so called big six. You say "Number of better clubs" other than the fact we know we have a shit owner and manager, we are probably as good as or on a par with most sides, let's face it West Ham have over achieved, are they better? Leicester I can't see him there, Southampton/Leeds/Villa? Are these better, will he have the impact? I hear you, but what you say could easily go the opposite way, some top managers send good players backwards also. He's done well here because he's smart, he's seen what's around him, he's seen we have no midfielder that attacks the box and he's capitalised, before his loan he had 1 goal in 40 for Arsenal, he now has 7 in 13. In hindsight I think this Newcastle side fully fit, best eleven out there including him, and hopefully one or two more could do a fair bit better next season, (regrettably with Bruce in charge.) Weather they're all played in the best formation and best possible position is obviously down to Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I guess it'll depend of they shift Arteta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Pants, but expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 If the player wants to leave, he'll leave. I can't see it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Well at this point Arteta isn’t going to be exactly saying take him off our hands please. Bump his price up and wait and see. Given that the loan didn’t have a option to buy it suggests Arsenal were hedging their bets anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 This season's Jetro, wants to stay, fans want him, no one at the top willing to do a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Fwiw Arteta probably has as much say in who stays and goes at Arsenal as I do, the only speed bump to this deal is Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 If Willock wants to come here, that's pretty much the end of the conversation. Ultimately Willock will never be a first team player for Arsenal next season under Arteta. Doesn't mean to say I think we will get him, just that what Arteta says will have very little baring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, STM said: If Willock wants to come here, that's pretty much the end of the conversation. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, STM said: If Willock wants to come here, that's pretty much the end of the conversation. Ultimately Willock will never be a first team player for Arsenal next season under Arteta. Doesn't mean to say I think we will get him, just that what Arteta says will have very little baring. According to Edwards, Willock is ready to stay and NUFC want to do a deal, whether that amounts to anything but a summer of posturing and a lowball offer remains to be seen. If we do actually pull this one out the bag I think it could persuade ASM to stay at least another season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I think this will be our one ‘big’ fee this summer tbh. Around the £20m mark, the rest will be frees and loans. Maybe the odd £7-10m player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Arteta has to say that, really. But then they'll go for Odegaard, Buendia etc and suddenly need money and squad spaces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Lets be honest, if Arsenal are willing to sell he'll have better options than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: Arteta has to say that, really. But then they'll go for Odegaard, Buendia etc and suddenly need money and squad spaces. They are not getting Odegaard now Zidane is leaving Real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) That’s the danger with loan deals, say we do get him then it’s probably going to be 25m plus. Which means we would have spent all our budget without improving the team from 3 months ago. Edited May 21, 2021 by CalmintheChaos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 59 minutes ago, CalmintheChaos said: That’s the danger with loan deals, say we do get him then it’s probably going to be 25m plus. Which means we have spent all our budget without improving the team from 3 months ago. He's not coming to play for a fat clown who's ambition is to finish 10th and started Sean Longstaff ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Arteta had to say that. IMO the deal is there for us, whether MA pays it is another thing. But It’s painfully obvious Willock basically saved the PL status for this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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