Mike Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Good lord, the man who'll never sack a manager and a manager who'll never walk or be inexplicably poached by long haired mugs. We are fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) Finished 13th and 10th with Sunderland, 44 and 47 points. He's actually done better in actual points there than he did here! Marginally... we are Sunderland 10 years ago really. Least they had the foresight to get rid, but didn't follow up convincingly time and time again opting for short-term managers Edited August 1, 2021 by nbthree3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 https://twitter.com/LukeEdwardsTele/status/1422113754171559940?s=19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I mean, it clearly isn't a dig at Bruce, not from Wilson anyway. Wilson probably quite likes Bruce, for all we know. It's more a humiliating reveal of Bruce's incompetence from a senior player; even better in a way cos it's completely honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Many footballers don't really care who the manager is. Him being a 'nice bloke' is probably enough for a lot of them, especially the ones who have ended up at Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 It's implicit though not a 'dig'. When your problems as a team stem from a lack of forethought and tactics don't be shocked when it's argued as criticism. Wouldn't be so bad if Bruce wasn't a thin skinned little bitch who needs little media bitches to stroke his fragile wittle ego. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Christ, what an utterly depressing comedown from the highs of the Euros, having to see reports of Bruce even talking as our manager still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Yorkie said: I mean, it clearly isn't a dig at Bruce, not from Wilson anyway. Wilson probably quite likes Bruce, for all we know. It's more a humiliating reveal of Bruce's incompetence from a senior player; even better in a way cos it's completely honest. It's not meant to be a dig, but obviously it is in a backhanded sort of way. Which manager wants to be presented as not having much of a clue about tactics? No wonder his fanboy Lukey Luke is crying and threatening to go on holiday again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Also, Graeme Jones might be a well-respected coach and tactically aware, but we're basically saying he's being expected to go up against Guardiola, Tuchel et al by himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) Bruce has been very lucky since he's been here, incredibly so really, the amount of games we have fluked a draw or win. If that luck runs out for a season, and 3 teams aren't absolutely shite, we are 100% down. Though there is the Jones factor i suppose. Edited August 2, 2021 by ToonArmy1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The luck ran out last season and then some; we still finished a country mile ahead of the drop. Anyone expecting/hoping for a terrible season needs to prepare themselves for more gaslighting from the media and more shit-eating grins from the clueless walloper in the dugout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Yorkie said: The luck ran out last season and then some; we still finished a country mile ahead of the drop. Anyone expecting/hoping for a terrible season needs to prepare themselves for more gaslighting from the media and more shit-eating grins from the clueless walloper in the dugout. Second half of the season it did, i'm pretty sure we fluked quite a few points early on, Wolves away Spurs away spring to mind, got draws from set pieces that shouldn't have been, there were others, unless that was the season before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 From that interview it appears Bruce is now Jones equivalent of Keegan’s Terry McDermott role, only with interview duties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRon said: It's not meant to be a dig, but obviously it is in a backhanded sort of way. Which manager wants to be presented as not having much of a clue about tactics? No wonder his fanboy Lukey Luke is crying and threatening to go on holiday again. It's not a dig when the man himself takes great pride in not doing tactics. Edited August 2, 2021 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I don’t really have that much faith in Jones either TBH. He may be a good coach but he was also responsible for that split striker nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t really have that much faith in Jones either TBH. He may be a good coach but he was also responsible for that split striker nonsense. It got us a few crucial wins to start with like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The split striker stuff works well when Wilson and ASM are fit, not so much when Joelinton and Gayle stand in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said: It got us a few crucial wins to start with like. I don't remember that, but I don't remember any details of NUFC matches so I will defer to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, The Prophet said: The split striker stuff works well when Wilson and ASM are fit, not so much when Joelinton and Gayle stand in. That's it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don't remember that, but I don't remember any details of NUFC matches so I will defer to you. Everton away was his first game using it, won 2-0..Burnley away i think..but ASM changed that game when he came on. It seemed to go to shit after a while, but did catch out opponents early on. Edited August 2, 2021 by ToonArmy1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I mean, are we really supposed to believe that Jones was appointed as a result of a request from Bruce?! I just don't buy that at all. Mind, having said that I'm still pretty astounded that anybody at the club was proactive enough to both identify the need for a more tactical, forward thinking coach, and then actually go out and recruit someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, deejeck said: I mean, are we really supposed to believe that Jones was appointed as a result of a request from Bruce?! I just don't buy that at all. I suspect there’s a correlation between people that believe that and people that believed Henry Mauriss was legit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Yorkie said: The luck ran out last season and then some; we still finished a country mile ahead of the drop. Anyone expecting/hoping for a terrible season needs to prepare themselves for more gaslighting from the media and more shit-eating grins from the clueless walloper in the dugout. Better hope Wilson stays fit over the majority of the season then. Because the only reason we finished as high as we did was Joe Willock's goals in the second half of the season, and it looks like we won't pay the fee to get him here again. Bruce is desperate to get him signed because he knows his horrendous football only works with someone who can score goals on the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I'm of the opinion Ashley really really doesn't want to sack Bruce so he was willing to do anything to keep him there, even if it meant bringing in a coach to essentially do his job. I think Jones was brought in because Bruce was really struggling at that point, we had become bookies favourites to go down for a week or so. Jones was an insurance policy, and as a secondary coach won't have cost that much either. If the worst happened, Bruce could have been pushed and Jones promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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