Guest neesy111 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I seen someone post the other day about "Mercenaries" Who would be classes as Mercenaries at this club? I personally put Cabaye at the top of that list, he might have a nice highlight reel but he does fuck all else, a hand full of great games in his 2 years here,majority of the time he goes missing. I don't blame the players really, 90% of the problem is the manager. I agree to an extent about Cabaye, but I still believe he's playing in the wrong position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I seen someone post the other day about "Mercenaries" Who would be classes as Mercenaries at this club? I personally put Cabaye at the top of that list, he might have a nice highlight reel but he does fuck all else, a hand full of great games in his 2 years here,majority of the time he goes missing. I don't blame the players really, 90% of the problem is the manager. I agree to an extent about Cabaye, but I still believe he's playing in the wrong position. One sits in front of the back four, Cabaye and Sissoko in the middle, Sissoko getting forward, Cabaye floating around passing it about. Never tried once by shit for brains, but so obvious and just where Cabaye played for Lille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I seen someone post the other day about "Mercenaries" Who would be classes as Mercenaries at this club? I personally put Cabaye at the top of that list, he might have a nice highlight reel but he does f*** all else, a hand full of great games in his 2 years here,majority of the time he goes missing. I don't blame the players really, 90% of the problem is the manager. I agree to an extent about Cabaye, but I still believe he's playing in the wrong position. One sits in front of the back four, Cabaye and Sissoko in the middle, Sissoko getting forward, Cabaye floating around passing it about. Never tried once by s*** for brains, but so obvious and just where Cabaye played for Lille. Its surprising some of the stuff Pardew has not even tried. Not once was the HBA - Cisse - Ba front 3 with Ba on the left tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It's not that difficult. What Pardew has managed to do in terms of making life difficult for himself is about the worst I've seen from any manager at any level. Souness was shit and gradually downgraded our squad (Faye, Boumsong, Luque etc.). Roeder was shit but had to work with a squad mostly populated by mercenaries (Duff, Babayaro, Owen etc.) or talentless kids (Pattison, Ramage, Huntington, Edgar etc.) Pardew's been served some excellent talent, seen his squad been improved in both quality and depth, provided with players being able occupy several different systems. Yet he comes up with solutions that completley disregard every good player's strenghts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What Pardew has managed to do in terms of making life difficult for himself is about the worst I've seen from any manager at any level. i'd like to see some counter offers to this in 2 years we bought a lot of the best talent france had to offer and he's brought us to the brink of relegation...who else has possibly come close to being this bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 On the flipside buying loads of foreigners with no PL experience and expecting to integrate them all in to the team and adapt straight away is nearly as fucking stupid. 1 or 2 yes, not 4 or 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 On the flipside buying loads of foreigners with no PL experience and expecting to integrate them all in to the team and adapt straight away is nearly as fucking stupid. 1 or 2 yes, not 4 or 5. bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What Pardew has managed to do in terms of making life difficult for himself is about the worst I've seen from any manager at any level. i'd like to see some counter offers to this in 2 years we bought a lot of the best talent france had to offer and he's brought us to the brink of relegation...who else has possibly come close to being this bad? Not only is he a shit manager, he's also got no eye for a footballer. Of all the French signings, the one he was responsible for was a winger who can't cross or shoot. How fucking stupid do you have to be to buy one of those? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What Pardew has managed to do in terms of making life difficult for himself is about the worst I've seen from any manager at any level. i'd like to see some counter offers to this in 2 years we bought a lot of the best talent france had to offer and he's brought us to the brink of relegation...who else has possibly come close to being this bad? Not only is he a shit manager, he's also got no eye for a footballer. Of all the French signings, the one he was responsible for was a winger who can't cross or shoot. How fucking stupid do you have to be to buy one of those? Well Fergie bought him. Erm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What Pardew has managed to do in terms of making life difficult for himself is about the worst I've seen from any manager at any level. i'd like to see some counter offers to this in 2 years we bought a lot of the best talent france had to offer and he's brought us to the brink of relegation...who else has possibly come close to being this bad? Not only is he a s*** manager, he's also got no eye for a footballer. Of all the French signings, the one he was responsible for was a winger who can't cross or shoot. How f***ing stupid do you have to be to buy one of those? Boils down to how little he understands about the formation he's using. Shola at RW ffs. Has no idea about the dynamics of any other formation than the 4-4-2 hoof shit he basically prefers. What happend in April 2012 we'll never know. Neither did he at the time, by the look of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 On the flipside buying loads of foreigners with no PL experience and expecting to integrate them all in to the team and adapt straight away is nearly as fucking stupid. 1 or 2 yes, not 4 or 5. hi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 For those voting 8, 9 or 10 you can get odds of over 10/1 on us going down. Dirty money yes but will help you drink to forget should the unthinkable happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 If it wasn't for several injury time winners/equalizers we would already be relegated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 On the flipside buying loads of foreigners with no PL experience and expecting to integrate them all in to the team and adapt straight away is nearly as fucking stupid. 1 or 2 yes, not 4 or 5. hi Did he buy them all halfway through the season or did he have a full pre-season to work with them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Pre-season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 If it wasn't for several injury time winners/equalizers we would already be relegated! There are hundreds of ifs and buts like that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 On the flipside buying loads of foreigners with no PL experience and expecting to integrate them all in to the team and adapt straight away is nearly as fucking stupid. 1 or 2 yes, not 4 or 5. hi Did he buy them all halfway through the season or did he have a full pre-season to work with them? you tell me, either way as i understand it he drafted in about 15 of them from the continent...young kids mostly...managed to forge a team from them, imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 On the flipside buying loads of foreigners with no PL experience and expecting to integrate them all in to the team and adapt straight away is nearly as fucking stupid. 1 or 2 yes, not 4 or 5. Straw-clutching is that, like. For a start, it hasn't been a case of them not naturally 'gelling' - all first-teamers have been deployed incorrectly at one point or another, which has prevented any hope of building up a chemistry. Of the new signings, Gouffran and Sissoko have been criminally misused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Could easily take this the other direction as we've been unlucky with injuries, etc., but a scary thought... Imagine we didn't get the gift of Cisse scoring off a WBA player's ass and some of those last minute winners. We'd really be in the thick of it. What a shitty season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Could easily take this the other direction as we've been unlucky with injuries, etc., but a scary thought... Imagine we didn't get the gift of Cisse scoring off a WBA player's ass and some of those last minute winners. We'd really be in the thick of it. What a shitty season. Although if Cisse's goal against the mackems had been allowed we might already be safe. There are hundreds of those hypotheticals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Could easily take this the other direction as we've been unlucky with injuries, etc., but a scary thought... Imagine we didn't get the gift of Cisse scoring off a WBA player's ass and some of those last minute winners. We'd really be in the thick of it. What a shitty season. Although if Cisse's goal against the mackems had been allowed we might already be safe. There are hundreds of those hypotheticals. I know, but now's not the time for optimism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 The chances of us winning that game even if Cisse's goal was allowed was slim. We would probably have been happy with that whilst Di Canio urged them forward for the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 The chances of us winning that game even if Cisse's goal was allowed was slim. We would probably have been happy with that whilst Di Canio urged them forward for the winner. Possibly, but the momentum would have swung massively. Anyway, it wasn't an argument that we'd been hard done by over the season, I was just saying that these 'if we hadn't had lucky goals...' arguments are slightly pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 The biggest IF is if Wigans hand ball goal hadnt been allowed, we would be 8 points clear of them and pretty much safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 The biggest IF is if Wigans hand ball goal hadnt been allowed, we would be 8 points clear of them and pretty much safe Aye, that bastard still rankles. If the shit ref had sent that prick off as well we might even have won the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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