Varadi Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 For us, the important thing is that AFCB and Norwich continue to flounder and the mackems/Villa get the same new manager bounce that we got. The mackems have already had a better new manager bounce than we got Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'm assuming this optimism, if thinking we might stay up can be classed as such, can only be based on the assumption that we experience an unprecedented turn in form (We`ve won three games all year). Whilst id love to share the sentiment, I cannot see this group having neither the skills, nor the spirit to mount a run of form to suggest such an upturn. No, were fucked Imo, though I`d echo the sentiments of those who don't fear relegation as some catalyst to a Leeds-esq disaster. You know, I don't go with the thinking that to be a successful club you have to challenge for the top honours year in-year out. No, you have to keep your punters happy, however that manifests itself. I have no interest at all in the Champions league, I harbour no ambitions to win the premier league (A futile aspiration the way things stand), I would, however, like to see the club play good football & win their fare share of games against teams of a similar ilk & mebez a tin pot cup or jaunt around Europe once in a while. This team / set-up is eons away from that. In the meantime, I`ll be happy going into the weekend optimistic of getting a result against lesser (Though at this present time arguably equivalent size) teams in the Championship & tuning in to Tuesday night for a bit of a midweek fix - the only downside being the lack of live telly. & stick your Champions league theme, Alan fucking Parry, Mourinoio`s post match bore-fest & the subsequent felating from the southern hacks, Souness / Redknapp / Collymore & all the other fatuous parasites who populate the Sky / talksport ex-pros club where its dark & brown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Bournemouth away is a certain defeat. Nailed on isn't it Stoke will have point to prove too imo... These two see a change, again imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Bournemouth away is a certain defeat. Nailed on isn't it Stoke will have point to prove too imo... These two see a change, again imo. 2 draws i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Over a quarter of the season gone and we have never had so few points. If we lose the next two we are fucked imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 We'll lose tomorrow, draw at best. Bournemouth away is a certain defeat and we'll be looking fucked again. Battle between us, Villa, mackems, Bournemouth and Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 We'll lose tomorrow, draw at best. Bournemouth away is a certain defeat and we'll be looking f***ed again. Battle between us, Villa, mackems, Bournemouth and Norwich. We'll win tomorrow! Perkele! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Was bored and American so decided see what the trend had been in recent times in terms of relegation chances after 10 games. Caveats aside that of course the game isn't played on paper and stats are the devil's abacus: if you're in the bottom 3 after 10 games it's still close to a coin-flip: 24 of the 45 teams in the bottom three after 10 games (53%) over the last 15 years have gone on to be relegated. Bold indicates a relegated team was in the bottom 3 after 10 games. YearBottom 3 After 10 GamesBottom 3 at season end 2014-15Leicester, QPR, BurnleyHull, Burnley, QPR 2013-14Norwich, Sunderland, Crystal PalaceNorwich, Fulham, Cardiff City 2012-13Reading, QPR, SouthamptonWigan, Reading, QPR 2011-12Bolton, Blackburn, WiganBolton, Blackburn, Wolves 2010-11Blackburn, Wolves, West HamBirmingham City, Blackpool, West Ham 2009-10Hull, West Ham, PortsmouthBurnley, Hull, Portsmouth 2008-09Wigan, Bolton, TottenhamNewcastle United, Middlesbrough, West Brom 2007-08Tottenham, Derby, BoltonReading, Birmingham City, Derby 2006-07Watford, Sheffield United, CharltonSheffield United, Charlton, Watford 2005-06Everton, Birmingham City, SunderlandBirmingham City, West Brom, Sunderland 2004-05Southampton, Norwich, BlackburnCrystal Palace, Norwich, Southampton 2003-04Bolton, Leeds, LeicesterLeicester, Leeds, Wolves 2002-03Man CIty, Sunderland, BoltonWest Ham, West Brom, Sunderland 2001-02Derby, Southampton, LeicesterIpswich, Derby, Leicester 2000-01West Ham, Bradford, DerbyMan City, Coventry, Bradford Be interesting to slice that information by whether the teams changed manager post ten games or not. If most of the ones that stay up is due to a manager change, that spells trouble for us as we wont change at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Was bored and American so decided see what the trend had been in recent times in terms of relegation chances after 10 games. Caveats aside that of course the game isn't played on paper and stats are the devil's abacus: if you're in the bottom 3 after 10 games it's still close to a coin-flip: 24 of the 45 teams in the bottom three after 10 games (53%) over the last 15 years have gone on to be relegated. Bold indicates a relegated team was in the bottom 3 after 10 games. YearBottom 3 After 10 GamesBottom 3 at season end 2014-15Leicester, QPR, BurnleyHull, Burnley, QPR 2013-14Norwich, Sunderland, Crystal PalaceNorwich, Fulham, Cardiff City 2012-13Reading, QPR, SouthamptonWigan, Reading, QPR 2011-12Bolton, Blackburn, WiganBolton, Blackburn, Wolves 2010-11Blackburn, Wolves, West HamBirmingham City, Blackpool, West Ham 2009-10Hull, West Ham, PortsmouthBurnley, Hull, Portsmouth 2008-09Wigan, Bolton, TottenhamNewcastle United, Middlesbrough, West Brom 2007-08Tottenham, Derby, BoltonReading, Birmingham City, Derby 2006-07Watford, Sheffield United, CharltonSheffield United, Charlton, Watford 2005-06Everton, Birmingham City, SunderlandBirmingham City, West Brom, Sunderland 2004-05Southampton, Norwich, BlackburnCrystal Palace, Norwich, Southampton 2003-04Bolton, Leeds, LeicesterLeicester, Leeds, Wolves 2002-03Man CIty, Sunderland, BoltonWest Ham, West Brom, Sunderland 2001-02Derby, Southampton, LeicesterIpswich, Derby, Leicester 2000-01West Ham, Bradford, DerbyMan City, Coventry, Bradford Be interesting to slice that information by whether the teams changed manager post ten games or not. If most of the ones that stay up is due to a manager change, that spells trouble for us as we wont change at all. Took a brief look and there wasn't a connection, probably because other teams will chop and change if/as they begin to slide, negating the effect. But all this is a coinflip at 10 games anyway. I think after 15-18 games bottom the 5 are usually set. Wait and see I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Another canny result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Seriously worries me that we seem unable to score in so many games this season. Butland did play class today but we should have won... again. Too familiar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Another canny result. Do you seriously want us to go down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 It is just too hard for us to get anything right now, whether is it's bad luck, poor refereeing, running into a keeper playing on fire or whatever, we can't get the results. It's a big relegation sign and a huge indication that this is not going to end well this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Seriously worries me that we seem unable to score in so many games this season. Butland did play class today but we should have won... again. Too familiar. 6 so far. Very worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 If we play like that every week we'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Another canny result. Do you seriously want us to go down? Erm, yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Ope, go out and have a walk... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Seriously worries me that we seem unable to score in so many games this season. Butland did play class today but we should have won... again. Too familiar. 6 so far. Very worrying. especially considering that defense is going to fuck up on a very regular basis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Think we're going down. You can excuse days like today when they're in isolation. However with the exception of Norwich we never finish teams off. Hallmarks of a relegation side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The icing on the cake will be Janmaat out for a few months, would be typical. If only we had some squad depth.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I know it's early but relegation looks likely imo. We are just not good enough and if there is not substantial investment in January we will be doomed. Even if we get 3/4 in we will still do well to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Another canny result. Do you seriously want us to go down? Erm, yes? Erm, why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Another canny result. Do you seriously want us to go down? Erm, yes? I think Ashley might sell if we go down and stay there. That's my only reason. Erm, why? Aahh ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 We looked too good to be going down, but it's worrying we didn't put away even one of those chances, because we are definitely going to concede goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Totally understand, if not agree with, Palnese's position, like. It's just a never-ending circle of nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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