Scoot Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Should have no bearing if PIF are legally separate from the Saudi state and NUFC are 100% confident of proving that through arbitration. As long as they do that, piracy doesn't even come into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Perhaps we're so legally confident, that it doesn't require Saudi Arabia bending over to Qatar. They can still block BeIN and be allowed to buy the club. Or lift the ban on BeIn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Richard Keys will love this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Well MoneyMike did say that TV rights would play a big part in getting the takeover passed...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Some of the spins here. If this is a good thing for Newcastle why would they vote against it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 you ever been in a meeting that requires a vote and everyone knows its going to pass so everyone but 1 cunt votes yes? we're that one cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Some of the spins here. If this is a good thing for Newcastle why would they vote against it? Yeah that was my main question. It might not mean anything but it doesn’t suggest it’s positive Has the football365 guy said anything lately? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can. Bet you any money manor park can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can. I'm not saying it will/won't happen. But why would Bein (Qatar) pay £500m for PL rights (which is the same they paid last time and included broadcasting in Saudi) if they didn't think Saudi were going to allow them to start broadcasting? Surely they'd pay less on the basis the PL rights aren't worth as much to them? If anything, I would think this a concession from Saudi and it'll be officially confirmed at some point that Saudi will allow Bein to be aired in their country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can. I'm not saying it will/won't happen. But why would Bein (Qatar) pay £500m for PL rights (which is the same they paid last time and included broadcasting in Saudi) if they didn't think Saudi were going to allow them to start broadcasting? Surely they'd pay less on the basis the PL rights aren't worth as much to them? If anything, I would think this a concession from Saudi and it'll be officially confirmed at some point that Saudi will allow Bein to be aired in their country. Why would Newcastle vote against it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 BEIN were pretty vocal stating the value of their contract was lost when Saudi kicked them out of the country back in July. Further, it was widely reported by the Muppets in the press who listen to Qatar that the value of deal in the future was in jeopardy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can. I'm not saying it will/won't happen. But why would Bein (Qatar) pay £500m for PL rights (which is the same they paid last time and included broadcasting in Saudi) if they didn't think Saudi were going to allow them to start broadcasting? Surely they'd pay less on the basis the PL rights aren't worth as much to them? If anything, I would think this a concession from Saudi and it'll be officially confirmed at some point that Saudi will allow Bein to be aired in their country. Why would Newcastle vote against it? No idea. Maybe the vote was some time ago prior to the news Saudi & Qatar are in peace talks. Maybe it was just MA being petty or maybe it means there is little to no hope of a deal. I just think Bein paying the same price they paid for the last PL rights (especially in the current climate of no fans etc) is the bigger part of the story. It doesn't make sense for them to pay the same amount if they didn't think they'd be able to broadcast in Saudi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 BEIN were pretty vocal stating the value of their contract was lost when Saudi kicked them out of the country back in July. Further, it was widely reported by the Muppets in the press who listen to Qatar that the value of deal in the future was in jeopardy. Agreed. Which is why it points to a Saudi concession imo as I think it likely means Bein will be granted access again to broadcast in Saudi. Admittedly I could be completely wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can. I'm not saying it will/won't happen. But why would Bein (Qatar) pay £500m for PL rights (which is the same they paid last time and included broadcasting in Saudi) if they didn't think Saudi were going to allow them to start broadcasting? Surely they'd pay less on the basis the PL rights aren't worth as much to them? If anything, I would think this a concession from Saudi and it'll be officially confirmed at some point that Saudi will allow Bein to be aired in their country. Why would Newcastle vote against it? No idea. Maybe the vote was some time ago prior to the news Saudi & Qatar are in peace talks. Maybe it was just MA being petty or maybe it means there is little to no hope of a deal. I just think Bein paying the same price they paid for the last PL rights (especially in the current climate of no fans etc) is the bigger part of the story. It doesn't make sense for them to pay the same amount if they didn't think they'd be able to broadcast in Saudi. Probably a clause stating if not resolved and ksa unavailable to broadcast to then a reduction is in place. There goes any theory this is good in any way for the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hopefully the truth lies in this, and the wider peace settlement with Saudi Arabia has given Bein the confidence to bid big again. Remember Bein initially claimed they wouldn’t be matching previous amount they paid. The key here is not the Saudis not getting the contract as it doesn’t appear they’ve been in for it, but if Saudi start allowing Bein to broadcast again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Massive climb down from KSA required for this to happen. Can’t see it. Not sure how anyone can. I'm not saying it will/won't happen. But why would Bein (Qatar) pay £500m for PL rights (which is the same they paid last time and included broadcasting in Saudi) if they didn't think Saudi were going to allow them to start broadcasting? Surely they'd pay less on the basis the PL rights aren't worth as much to them? If anything, I would think this a concession from Saudi and it'll be officially confirmed at some point that Saudi will allow Bein to be aired in their country. Why would Newcastle vote against it? No idea. Maybe the vote was some time ago prior to the news Saudi & Qatar are in peace talks. Maybe it was just MA being petty or maybe it means there is little to no hope of a deal. I just think Bein paying the same price they paid for the last PL rights (especially in the current climate of no fans etc) is the bigger part of the story. It doesn't make sense for them to pay the same amount if they didn't think they'd be able to broadcast in Saudi. Probably a clause stating if not resolved and ksa unavailable to broadcast to then a reduction is in place. There goes any theory this is good in any way for the takeover. I've not seen any report of such a clause and given FFP I doubt clubs would agree to a package that could change given they can only spend a certain percentage over and above their income. I'm possibly coming across as overly positive and to tell the truth I'm pretty sceptical the deal will happen. I just think the new TV deal is more likely a good sign than a bad sign. I guess we'll only know if/when it is established if Bein can broadcast in Saudi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hopefully the truth lies in this, and the wider peace settlement with Saudi Arabia has given Bein the confidence to bid big again. Remember Bein initially claimed they wouldn’t be matching previous amount they paid. The key here is not the Saudis not getting the contract as it doesn’t appear they’ve been in for it, but if Saudi start allowing Bein to broadcast again. That last tweet is the most interesting. Both parties confident of being able to service the Saudi market soon. Again I say though, if NUFC win arbitration that proves PIF are a separate legal entity to KSA, it makes all this irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Serbia Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 #soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 This peace deal could be the key to unlocking the deal. I’m still not convinced though and think top 6 would still object regardless of resumption of Bein in Saudi. What I’d like to know at this point has this MENA contract been put out to tender, or is it more ammo in relation to collusion and corruption at the top of PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 We will be voting against everything the Premier League are putting forward. We will well and truly be spitting our dummy out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I much preferred the days when we used to get second hand information from Football365. Better than this silence shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 My guy feeling is that is not good news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 My guy feeling is that is not good news But some guy on twitter called Harry said it was done. Gutted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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