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[Miggys First Goal]

 

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[El Prontonise]

8 minutes ago, Fatwax said:

WHOOP have gone from strength to strength over the last 8 or so years. Without checking I'd confidently say that the company is valued in the billions.

 

Their annual revenue is 250m dollars.  

 

Another firm that's way overvalued with private equity money.

 

Also Google with the new Fitbit have eaten massively into their territory.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Their annual revenue is 250m dollars.  

 

Another firm that's way overvalued with private equity money.

 

Also Google with the new Fitbit have eaten massively into their territory.

They definitely operate in a competitive market with very strong competition and not much of a MOAT. 

 

But I could careless about any of that just show us the money

[El Prontonise]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

They make fitness straps, they are meant to be good anarl. 

 

Fitness straps which require a constant subscription.  While they are good, they aren't mass market.

[Gola]

Was actually considering getting one but the subscription puts me off. Anyone recommend anything similar that's just as 'reliable' and not 150  a year?

[El Prontonise]

Just now, Gola said:

Was actually considering getting one but the subscription puts me off. Anyone recommend anything similar that's just as 'reliable' and not 150  a year?

 

The New Fitbit Air.

[The Prophet]

Would be looking at a short term fix? Sounds like a few clubs are taking on sponsorships for less cash this summer.

[r0cafella]

I'm not sure what it does that Garmin doesn't tbh. 

[Fatwax]

14 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Their annual revenue is 250m dollars.  

 

Another firm that's way overvalued with private equity money.

 

Also Google with the new Fitbit have eaten massively into their territory.

 

Interesting info, thanks.

[lovejoy]

10 minutes ago, Gola said:

Was actually considering getting one but the subscription puts me off. Anyone recommend anything similar that's just as 'reliable' and not 150  a year?

I’ve had a whoop for 2 years. I love it. I’d defo recommend.

[bobbydazzla]

Says there's a party over here, a party over there,
Wave your hands in the air, shake your derriere
These three words mean we’re gettin' busy,
Whoop, there it is! Hit me!

[WelshToon]

30 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

 

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Nothing will fix that monstrosity unfortunately 

[Pixelphish]

My Venu 4 arrives today as it happens.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Pixelphish said:

My Venu 4 arrives today as it happens.

I have one it's good enjoy. 

[McCormick]

12 minutes ago, WelshToon said:

Nothing will fix that monstrosity unfortunately 

No pleasing some people. It’ll obviously be the first one, unfortunately, but that 2nd one is lushhhhh.

[Geogaddi]

A lot of professional athletes use Whoop,  they got banned in tennis for some daft reason but the likes of Alcaraz used them before that . 

[Harry 209]

According to this article our Fair Market Value for front of shirt sponsor is £16.9m p/a so it will be interesting to see what we actually get.

 

https://www.thesponsor.com/revealed-premier-league-fair-market-sponsorship-values-2026/

[r0cafella]

Just now, Harry 209 said:

According to this article our Fair Market Value for front of shirt sponsor is £16.9m p/a so it will be interesting to see what we actually get.

 

https://www.thesponsor.com/revealed-premier-league-fair-market-sponsorship-values-2026/

Fair market value is what someone decides to pay nothing more nothing less. 

[TK-421]

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Fair market value is what someone decides to pay nothing more nothing less. 

Exactly.

To a degree, I can understand fair market value kicking in, if a company was prepared to throw crazy money at a club for the sponsorship, like stupid figures.

However on the flipside, to change it deal to deal, just because you have an average/bad season (or two, in spurs case) is bit dodgy.

So Sela or an alternative new sponsor couldn't give us the same £25m deal again, just because we finished 12th last season?

[r0cafella]

Just now, TK-421 said:

Exactly.

To a degree, I can understand fair market value kicking in, if a company was prepared to throw crazy money at a club for the sponsorship, like stupid figures.

However on the flipside, to change it deal to deal, just because you have an average/bad season (or two, in spurs case) is bit dodgy.

So Sela or an alternative new sponsor couldn't give us the same £25m deal again, just because we finished 12th last season?

It's probably ai slop honestly. Not knocking the poster but markets are about price discovery and you can't really calculate value when your talking about intangible benefits. 

 

The problem with such items is people will cite them with little understanding and be quoted as if they are some sort of primary source. 

[TBG]

Apparently its impossible to say 'Whoop Whoop'

[Harry 209]

13 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

It's probably ai slop honestly. Not knocking the poster but markets are about price discovery and you can't really calculate value when your talking about intangible benefits. 

 

The problem with such items is people will cite them with little understanding and be quoted as if they are some sort of primary source. 

Fairly sure it isn't AI slop:

 

Valuation methodology statement

The valuation is conducted using a market regression approach, in accordance with the principles of IVS 105 Valuation Approaches and Methods.

The valuation date is 1st June 2026.

The Sponsor is an independent valuer with no vested or commercial interest in the outcomes of the valuations. The Sponsor does not buy, sell or recommend sponsorships on behalf of brands, agencies or rights holders, and is entirely privately owned - under no pressure from parent organisations or shareholders with a stake in the result.

A full market-based regression methodology can be viewed here: 

https://fmvindex.thesponsor.com/methodology

[TheBrownBottle]

30 minutes ago, Harry 209 said:

According to this article our Fair Market Value for front of shirt sponsor is £16.9m p/a so it will be interesting to see what we actually get.

 

https://www.thesponsor.com/revealed-premier-league-fair-market-sponsorship-values-2026/

It doesn’t matter for non-related transactions - it’s worth what the market dictates

[TheBrownBottle]

Mind, I’m sure that any sponsor will be foaming if they bid £20m and then read what an anonymous internet gadgie said about what it’s really worth on his website, where he forensically analyses market data or some such shite

[Rocker]

Having my vitals measured every second of the day would stress me off my box.