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The "delighted Ashley has gone, but uncomfortable with Saudi ownership" thread


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1 hour ago, neesy111 said:

 

The ignorance in this post is astounding.

 

Holiday camp FFS.

You think modern prison is hard time like?  If you do then the ignorance on your side is mind blowing. 

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1 minute ago, Heron said:

If someone raped my sister. I'd likely kill them. Guess I'm a nutcase. 

Same here, but a death penalty wouldn’t prevent me from doing so in that instance and that is an extreme example, most who commit heinous crimes of murder regardless of circumstance do so mainly because they are psychopaths and again, a death penalty wouldn’t be a deterrent.

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7 minutes ago, Dembacha said:

What type of crime would push a rational person to go as far as killing another person out of revenge though?


grief hits people in different ways, so I don’t know what threshold people will hold. Was watching a documentary on the moors murders, and those poor parents and family members who had to listen to recordings of their child being tortured, abused and murdered must have been absolutely horrific, and personally I don’t think I would have called them nutcases for wanting to exact revenge if they had the chance. Though not murder, I was also thinking about the Dutch keeper Robert Enke there who committed suicide after his daughter died. Such a horrible thing to go through and grief of that magnitude must be so hard for people to cope with. It’s quite easy for us to say things without going through these things. 

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3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Assuming you’re basing that on the Daily Mail rather than actual first hand experience?

Of course. I’m your quintessential serial complainer who harkens for a return to the 70’s

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8 minutes ago, Heron said:

If someone raped my sister. I'd likely kill them. Guess I'm a nutcase. 

Would you still try to kill that person if they were in jail, police custody or even 5 years after the person is released from jail?

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1 minute ago, Dembacha said:

Would you still try to kill that person if they were in jail, police custody or even 5 years after the person is released from jail?


you or I don’t know because we haven’t been that situation. 

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I think the debate around the death penalty for child murderers is a bit of a separate one to that around capital punishment in Saudi Arabia, where you can be put to death for adultery or witchcraft.

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1 minute ago, BlueStar said:

I think the debate around the death penalty for child murderers is a bit of a separate one to that around capital punishment in Saudi Arabia, where you can be put to death for adultery or witchcraft.

 

Both probably belong in the chat forum tbh. 

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1 minute ago, BlueStar said:

I think the debate around the death penalty for child murderers in the UK is a bit of a separate one to that around capital punishment in Saudi Arabia, where you can be put to death for adultery or witchcraft.

 

Do they get a fair trial in Saudi Arabia?

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5 minutes ago, neesy111 said:

 

Do they get a fair trial in Saudi Arabia?

 

Is it possible to be fairly executed for witchcraft?

 

For the death penalty you need a few male witnesses (presumably two male witnesses saying you did it outrank 20 female witnesses who say you didn't as their testimony isn't allowed)

 

 

Saudi Arabia's War on Witchcraft

A special unit of the religious police pursues magical crime aggressively, and the convicted face death sentences.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/saudi-arabias-war-on-witchcraft/278701/

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1 minute ago, gbandit said:

Pardew was always going on about needing that little bit of magic, sounds like he’s got some crimes to answer for in KSA

 

Could be a clue as to why PIF appointed Beheddie Howe.

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I'll probably explain this badly but I do think that 'sportswashing' gets thrown about a bit lazily at times as a bit of an easy criticism without much thought behind it. 

 

Sportswashing obviously exists, and no doubt Saudi in part at least have purchased Newcastle as a way of raising their profile, perhaps with Newcastle being a very public face of their investment strategy with diversification, further investment into sport etc. 

 

But I don't buy that they've bought us and are potentially going to be spending billions just to have Gary the roofer from Benwell defend them on twitter under some BBC news articles, it just doesn't really make much sense and becomes a very easy to stick to beat us as fans with, which is where I've got a problem with it. 

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15 hours ago, triggs said:

It's worthy of comment, especially in this thread

Well this might upset a few, but as proud as I am about Howe & the team, I've felt pretty ashamed about our Saudi ownership over the last few days....particularly the mass beheading and the  more I have read about Yemen. 

The amount of NUFC fans on Twitter defending the Saudis has been equally grim.

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Guest neesy111
2 minutes ago, Ben said:

Are Chelsea really in that much financial trouble or is it just scaremongering?

 

It's very bad.

 

A significant proportion of their cashflow has gone.

 

 

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