Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

[Vinny Green Balls]

5 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

This is how online grooming starts isn't it

Which is why I haven't set foot in Romania since 2020.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, Fak said:

 

My inbox is always open for stuff like that.

A little too open for my size tbh

[Fak]

Just now, nemtizz said:

 

Can confirm

 

[alexf]

29 minutes ago, midds said:

 

 

This is quite interesting to look at. 

 

So of the 4 home games we lost, I'd say 3 of those we should have won. Only Bournemouth came and fully outplayed us and deserved the points. 

 

The two draws against City and Liverpool against could have easily been wins with abit more luck. 

 

To only win once away against the current top 13 is abit concerning. If it wasn't for the cup game against them then Arsenal next week looks like a guaranteed loss going by this record. 

 

However it should mean we hopefully do the business against Everton. If we do, then bar the West Ham anomaly, we have beaten all of the rest of the bottom 9 and most of them we did the double aswell. 

 

Come on boys, one more win 🙏.

[Pata]

36 minutes ago, Rod said:

By the way, if you are joking then why say it in the first place?

 

Exactly Rod!

[Smal]

we're still on just 7 points lost from winning positions this season then, the best in the league. 

 

I know it's not natural for a Newcastle fan but I'm starting to feel more comfortable when we drop into a defensive block that we'll just see it through now. Always feel like if we score early then we'll win. It's obviously not even how Howe wanted us to play in the second half but the fact we're so good at it regardless is a massive credit to him, the staff and the players. 

 

 

Edited May 11 by Smal

[TRon]

8 hours ago, HalloNUFC said:

Testing a new formation right before the most/2nd most important match of the season?!

 

I don't have any words other than praying for Howe being the genius we all think.

 

Even if Willock was fit I was pleased when I found out we were going to a back 3 again. It just felt like the right fit for the players we had available. What did surprise me was how dominant we were even in that formation, I would have expected us to be a bit more circumspect, but we got after them like sharks sniffing blood.

[TheBrownBottle]

What’s Howe’s record vs the sky six + Villa?  I’m not sure how to look it up, but it must be fucking incredible by this point.  We just seem to be set up right nine times out of ten for any game against a good side

[looneytoon]

 

 

[Heron]

6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

What’s Howe’s record vs the sky six + Villa?  I’m not sure how to look it up, but it must be fucking incredible by this point.  We just seem to be set up right nine times out of ten for any game against a good side

So this season we have;

 

Pl: 13

W: 7

D: 2

L: 4

Pts: 23

 

GF: 22

GA: 19

GD: +3

 

This is just in the league but then factoring in the cups as well (using points for cup wins):

 

Pl: 17

W: 11

D: 2

L: 4

Pts: 35

 

GF: 29

GA: 20

GD: +9

 

Which is actually, really, really good (I'd think) - by comparison, in the league Liverpool have 29, Arsenal - 24 and Man City - a surprisingly, lowly, 18.

 

Given that one of the losses was Liverpool where we deliberately played an alternative way to throw them off the scent for the final. For me that leaves a poor showing down at Villa but which was offset 4-4 and 0pts over two games, Chelsea who also offset to 0pts over two games but we have a GD of +1 against (+3 and +3pts if you factor in the cup win), then Man City who are seemingly the only side for Howe to really crack this year with -3points and -4GD.

 

When factoring in Forest as well as the next placed club that is +6points and +3GD and an away cup win on penalties. So we'd have won 13 from 20 (65%) and drawn 2 (10%) meaning unbeaten in 75%.

 

[Yeah - I'm bored and the wife is watching some shite on tv ]

 

Outside of these teams Fulham are the team who've probably had our number most with 2 defeats. Then Brighton with a loss and a draw to them, but compounded by a cup defeat. Then Bournemouth with a loss and a draw versus them.

 

Other than those 4 team we've held our own against everyone.

 

The form shown against the top 7 sides though (especially once the cup run is factored in) to me suggests the league (as cliché as it is) doesn't lie overall. The teams who've done well against the 'Sky 7' are largely where they should rank within the overall league table except Man United have only 8 points and Tottenham 12 and Tottenham are lower in the table.

 

[I'm now bored of editing this post and looking into it ]

 

 

Edited May 12 by Heron

[TheBrownBottle]

5 hours ago, Heron said:

So this season we have;

 

Pl: 13

W: 7

D: 2

L: 4

Pts: 23

 

GF: 22

GA: 19

GD: +3

 

This is just in the league but then factoring in the cups as well (using points for cup wins):

 

Pl: 17

W: 11

D: 2

L: 4

Pts: 35

 

GF: 29

GA: 20

GD: +9

 

Which is actually, really, really good (I'd think) - by comparison, in the league Liverpool have 29, Arsenal - 24 and Man City - a surprisingly, lowly, 18.

 

Given that one of the losses was Liverpool where we deliberately played an alternative way to throw them off the scent for the final. For me that leaves a poor showing down at Villa but which was offset 4-4 and 0pts over two games, Chelsea who also offset to 0pts over two games but we have a GD of +1 against (+3 and +3pts if you factor in the cup win), then Man City who are seemingly the only side for Howe to really crack this year with -3points and -4GD.

 

When factoring in Forest as well as the next placed club that is +6points and +3GD and an away cup win on penalties. So we'd have won 13 from 20 (65%) and drawn 2 (10%) meaning unbeaten in 75%.

 

[Yeah - I'm bored and the wife is watching some shite on tv ]

 

Outside of these teams Fulham are the team who've probably had our number most with 2 defeats. Then Brighton with a loss and a draw to them, but compounded by a cup defeat. Then Bournemouth with a loss and a draw versus them.

 

Other than those 4 team we've held our own against everyone.

 

The form shown against the top 7 sides though (especially once the cup run is factored in) to me suggests the league (as cliché as it is) doesn't lie overall. The teams who've done well against the 'Sky 7' are largely where they should rank within the overall league table except Man United have only 8 points and Tottenham 12 and Tottenham are lower in the table.

 

[I'm now bored of editing this post and looking into it ]

 

 

 

That’s great work mate  - many thanks.  And that’s a pretty incredible record tbh

[PauloGeordio]

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Kanj]

Genuinely agree with that. 

[SteV]

I’m sure plenty of people saw the graphic put up on Sky yesterday showing the combined points totals over the last three seasons. We were 4th behind Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool.

 

So he’s basically had two-thirds of a season with a team that were in the relegation zone, and then made them a CL league standard team over a consistent period of time.

 

It’s an incredible achievement.

[duo]

 

 

[Thumbheed]

I actually can't comprehend how good he might be. 

 

Dubravka

Krafth 

Dummet

Lascelles

Miley (not there yet)

Longstaff 

Osula 

Willock 

Wilson

Murphy 

 

How many of these players might make it into a squad that's regularly challenging for the top places in the league? 1 maybe 2?

 

It's actually mind-boggling how far we still have to go in terms of squad development.

 

(Only reason I've included Murphy is because he's a late bloomer who come on leaps and bound under Howe himself but I doubt he'd have been signed by any team aiming for the top)

 

[LFEE]

3 hours ago, PauloGeordio said:

 

 

 

Didn’t that account want him sacked a month into the season? 

[PauloGeordio]

10 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

 

Didn’t that account want him sacked a month into the season? 

He’s proved a lot of folk wrong. Imagine if he had the same funds at his disposal as the cartel clubs! 

[Skeletor]

If (when) we get in the CL, please for the love of god give this man a SQUAD to work with rather than just a 1st team and a few subs.

[midds]

Howe's main problem will come in a couple of years time. That first raft of players we brought into the club in the first 2 windows will all be 4 or 5 years older and they too will need to be replaced, I'm thinking Trippier, Burn, Targett, Pope and Bruno (to a lesser extent). So not only will he need to continue to weed out the malingerers from the squad he inherited but he'll also need to start planning to replace the replacements. The youth teams don't appear to be churning out masses of talent and the younger players we've invested in are still a few years from developing into useful squad players. 

 

We're going to be constantly chasing for at least another 10 years yet imo. Players age and need upgrading and that includes who we have already brought in. We desperately need to get the youth system right and it needs to start producing very soon or I fear we'll never really bridge that gap. Seeing even a couple of players introduced each year would be huge, introducing players capable of even PL-squad level means more cash can go into the stars. This was the squad he inherited from the pig:

 

That is a squad of players that was, literally, worthless. He had virtually nothing to build on and I think that gets ignored too often and makes what he's done even more impressive

[Slim]

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[LFEE]

 

[Groundhog63]

1 hour ago, LFEE said:

 

[Paully]

1 hour ago, LFEE said:

 

Our gaffer -what a man!