Eddie Howe

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Delap wouldn’t have been a world away from the Osulu fee by PL standards.  But I guess he needed guaranteed minutes.  
 

The idea of proven, fit PL player for a backup is tosh though.  It’s a young player, old player, or shit player. 
 

I always thought Wood was as good as you can get a proven PL backup that might be happy to sit on the bench for a club like ours. 

Osula. 

[Monters]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Delap wouldn’t have been a world away from the Osulu fee by PL standards.  But I guess he needed guaranteed minutes.  
 

The idea of proven, fit PL player for a backup is tosh though.  It’s a young player, old player, or shit player. 
 

I always thought Wood was as good as you can get a proven PL backup that might be happy to sit on the bench for a club like ours. 

Delap wouldn't have moved from City's bench to ours but I agree with the sentiment... Liverpool have as strong a pool of forwards of anyone including City but they are all slightly different which makes the rotation easier. Plus it helps that Salah scores more than some clubs!

 

Obviously PSR restricts our every move but similar to when Kane was at Spurs it's difficult to sign another top forward when your first choice is real quality    

[Displayname]

It was obvious that we needed a ready to go 3rd striker imo. Didnt need to be high quality. I think Eddie misjudged Gordons ability to play there.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

It was obvious that we needed a ready to go 3rd striker imo. Didnt need to be high quality. I think Eddie misjudged Gordons ability to play there.

Not sure such a thing exists. 

[OverThere]

I would say Anthony Gordon is not a Premier League ready Center Forward and yet he plays there all too frequently. I still cant get my head around Osula not being given any minutes playing in his actual position, and he has PL experience.

[lovejoy]

2 hours ago, Roids said:

I'd have one eye on Iraola if I was on the board

 

I think they will have, along with Thomas frank and the fella at Stuttgart,

[Myleftboot]

7 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

 

I think they will have, along with Thomas frank and the fella at Stuttgart,

Think it would be Pochettino or Nagelsmann with the links to Mitchell.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Myleftboot said:

Think it would be Pochettino or Nagelsmann with the links to Mitchell.

Does Nagelsmann have any links to Mitchell?

[HaydnNUFC]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Does Nagelsmann have any links to Mitchell?

 

Think their time at Leipzig overlaps only incredibly briefly.

[80]

47 minutes ago, OverThere said:

I would say Anthony Gordon is not a Premier League ready Center Forward and yet he plays there all too frequently. I still cant get my head around Osula not being given any minutes playing in his actual position, and he has PL experience.

Not that I strongly disagree, but my guess is Howe is concerned about doing a Tomasson on Osula before his career really gets going here. Osula's PL experience is of not scoring goals in the PL so far. 

 

Given that - arguably - we haven't been stretched for forwards this season, given we have fewer games and Isak, Gordon and Barnes to rotate, I find him being very conservative with Osula more tolerable.

 

But I definitely wouldn't mind him taking more of a chance on him... A burst of youthful enthusiasm could really do us some good right now.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by 80

[Jimburst]

I wouldn't might seeing Osula doing a bit of Isak's running. He seems very into the high press, not sure if we could play 2 up top, Isak roaming and Osula running down the CB's.

[PauloGeordio]

6 minutes ago, Jimburst said:

I wouldn't might seeing Osula doing a bit of Isak's running. He seems very into the high press, not sure if we could play 2 up top, Isak roaming and Osula running down the CB's.

He’s a big strong lad and could help pull defenders out of position and create spaces.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Osula. 

Agreed.  But we have to actually use him. 

 

1 hour ago, Monters said:

Delap wouldn't have moved from City's bench to ours but I agree with the sentiment... Liverpool have as strong a pool of forwards of anyone including City but they are all slightly different which makes the rotation easier. Plus it helps that Salah scores more than some clubs!

 

Obviously PSR restricts our every move but similar to when Kane was at Spurs it's difficult to sign another top forward when your first choice is real quality    

I said the same thing.  Liverpool have the most quality in depth attack in Europe.  City have 1 striker.  They had a good understudy who moved for more football. 
 

I would like us to use Osula more. I also don’t hate Gordon up top when he’s in form. 
 

this is one of the Eddie quirks I’m used too. 

[Weezertron]

As much as managers love utility players, who can do 4-5 positions, you could argue they're canny shit for the game. We have a canny few in our squad. Stops youth coming through, you end up with a portion of the squad who don't excel at anything. 

[nufcjmc]

2 hours ago, loki679 said:

 

 

If this is a comment after the game while it's his job to handle the press i do feel for him. Right after a defeat and right when things arent going right. 

 

He's right in that buying ready made guaranteed to get you goals Premier league goals is hard to come by and those with known form are a fortune. Issue is something needs to be done especially if the table stabilises and we aren't there to grab the opportunity. 

 

I still feel a creative right winger helps so much if they too feel comfortable playing across the front three or up top it's another variable/switch that can be made tactically bot not essential. Wilson or isak middle, gordan stays where he's proved to be most effective all those moving about and combinations haven't worked outside of a single game. 

 

Our front 3 are just not working while the cheapest option is to back what we have to hit form and put it right it's unlikely to happen based on how far into the season we are now and no one has hit their peak and kept it.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by nufcjmc

[OverThere]

8 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

I wonder how he thinks a striker becomes a Premier League striker

Hmmm...

[Monters]

37 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Agreed.  But we have to actually use him. 

 

I said the same thing.  Liverpool have the most quality in depth attack in Europe.  City have 1 striker.  They had a good understudy who moved for more football. 
 

I would like us to use Osula more. I also don’t hate Gordon up top when he’s in form. 
 

this is one of the Eddie quirks I’m used too. 

I agree, I think, I always feel I'm too old to fully understand your posts 

I would love us to build a forward pool a la Liverpool's despite hating that club... It will be very difficult though.

To be honest I've never known Newcastle to have a squad full of options it's like it's alien to us... We have some cracking teams over the years but always had a big drop off when anyone was injured.  I do like some of the moves they have made to bolster the academy so praying they can come off!

[Holmesy]

21 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

If this is a comment after the game while it's his job to handle the press i do feel for him. Right after a defeat and right when things arent going right. 

 

He's right in that buying ready made guaranteed to get you goals Premier league goals is hard to come by and those with known form are a fortune. Issue is something needs to be done especially if the table stabilises and we aren't there to grab the opportunity. 

 

I still feel a creative right winger helps so much if they too feel comfortable playing across the front three or up top it's another variable/switch that can be made tactically bot not essential. Wilson or isak middle, gordan stays where he's proved to be most effective all those moving about and combinations haven't worked outside of a single game. 

 

Our front 3 are just not working while the cheapest option is to back what we have to hit form and put it right it's unlikely to happen based on how far into the season we are now and no one has hit their peak and kept it.

 

 

 

Isak wasn't a ready made guaranteed to get you goals. He was a very good striker but a calculated risk who came from another league, but I would say he's worked out ok.

Other teams seem to be able to identify talent from overseas and make them work as well. It's a fucking nonsense!

The PL is far more like other continental leagues now than it ever was and players are protected from the physicality that originally defined the PL - that was often the make or break. 

 

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by Holmesy

[Ben]

Comments like that really make think "why bother" it's a closed shop, we are not playing with fair rules so what's the point

[Groundhog63]

6 minutes ago, Monters said:

I agree, I think, I always feel I'm too old to fully understand your posts 

I would love us to build a forward pool a la Liverpool's despite hating that club... It will be very difficult though.

To be honest I've never known Newcastle to have a squad full of options it's like it's alien to us... We have some cracking teams over the years but always had a big drop off when anyone was injured.  I do like some of the moves they have made to bolster the academy so praying they can come off!

 

Jota £45m

Nunez  £85m

Salah £42m (in 2017 btw ££££)

Gakpo £42m

Diaz £52m

Szob £70m

[andycap]

If he had used osula when Isak got injured I reckon we would've getting a shot on target 🎯 that's what strikers do eddie lad 😂 

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Myleftboot said:

Think it would be Pochettino or Nagelsmann with the links to Mitchell.

 

The timing wasn't right, but if Tuchel hadn't took the England job, I would have been quite excited to see him here. I just think his sort of personality  would fit here, and he's mentioned us before so he seemed to be open to it. But right now I think the job is Howe's to lose. We are still in touch with CL places if he can get some form going, so we won't be looking for a replacement unless things really do take a dive over what's left of the season.

[PauloGeordio]

2 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

Probably just my current mood as I've had a terrible day, but admit the PL has become a bit pointless. Money was only thing that could transcend any side to winning things. Now that's been controlled so the ones with large revenues are pretty much insulated from others bring able to compete, the only fun is hoping you sign a great player before a cartel club does, sell on for profit to hope to repeat the process to at best get within touching distance of 3rd or a trophy. 

 

We used to want a team that tries, but now it has to be one that has to tries but with one arm tied behind its back while a bunch at the top have none tied at all. The disadvantage it's making it so soulless and pointless.

 

It just feels inevitable Bruno and Isak will ask to leave and it's a roll of the dice if that money gets anything as good, and if it does, it all feels like the same loop will occur.

 

What a load of fun I am today

That’s exactly the loop they’ve created. New stadium announcement should liven things up 

[toon25]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Agreed.  But we have to actually use him. 

 

I said the same thing.  Liverpool have the most quality in depth attack in Europe.  City have 1 striker.  They had a good understudy who moved for more football. 
 

I would like us to use Osula more. I also don’t hate Gordon up top when he’s in form. 
 

this is one of the Eddie quirks I’m used too. 

 

Spot on, that

[Lotus]

Wrong thread.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by Lotus