Eddie Howe

[CallumG6]

9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I’m just shocked that the first genuine bad spell people want him gone. 
 

 

Just out of curiosity, what would warrant a change in your viewpoint?

[TRon]

1 minute ago, Joe1984 said:

Eddie took us to top half after taking over when we were bottom 3. A feat never done before or since.

 

Then he took us to the CL. All while using a bunch of players the majority of the fans considered championship standard.

 

Now things have hit a bump its all doom and gloom and sackings.

 

On Wednesday he was widely praised. 

 

Today people want him gone.

 

Football fans are fickle by nature.

 

Might also be that we picked up 2 points from the last four games and only Liverpool was against a fancied side.

[Lush Vlad]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I’m just shocked that the first genuine bad spell people want him gone. 
 

 

Are you fuck   You’ve posted with a negative slant regarding Howe’s tactics and selections for ages.
 

It’s not about it being his first genuine bad spell for myself and many others I’m sure. But he is repeating all the same mistakes, performances by and large have been crap this season and there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with pretty much all of the players. How come so many are seemingly out of form at the same time?

 

He got a pass last season. Injuries were a genuine reason for a lot of it. But this season we seem to be even worse, less of an identity and usually terrible when making changes and tweaks mid-game. 
 

I don’t want him gone. I love the bloke. I just don’t think he will suddenly turn this around. When the way we’ve played most the season (and last season at times even allowing for the injuries) don’t inspire any confidence. 
 

Plenty are saying similar and it’s totally understandable. 

[The College Dropout]

Just now, 80 said:

Well I was thinking more of Brentford and Brighton, but we are on the same page.

Their leadership has been ace.  
 

 

Im more concerned about our leadership than Eddie Howe (who is not doing a stellar job.  Don’t think he’s doing a bad job given the circumstances). 
 

Leadership has fumbled the squad and the finances.  Sometimes indulging Eddie when they shouldn’t have. 

[Joe1984]

Just now, TRon said:

 

Might also be that we picked up 2 points from the last four games and only Liverpool was against a fancied side.

Sure but when we start winning they will love Howe again.

 

Fickle. 

 

Again most fans are. It's part of football.

[RodneyCisse]

2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Eddie took us to top half after taking over when we were bottom 3. A feat never done before or since.

 

Then he took us to the CL. All while using a bunch of players the majority of the fans considered championship standard.

 

Now things have hit a bump its all doom and gloom and sackings.

 

On Wednesday he was widely praised. 

 

Today people want him gone.

 

Football fans are fickle by nature.

He was his own worst enemy giving us Champions League so soon, and bringing us all memories forever with the PSG game. 
 

Now everyone is expecting him, with his hands tied to keep providing that.

[Conjo]

39 minutes ago, thomas said:

If i was forced at gunpoint to pick whether to back or sack? This would be the last time I'd still answer "back" after a disappointing result.

 

Needs to figure out a way to win the next 8 straight and move past this absolute clownturd of a run we're on.

 

No pressure

[duo]

All of this is the result of us not building on the 4th finish - we should have been much more ruthless in the transfer market moving players on and using the money to upgrade.  But instead we handed contract extensions. 

[Danh1]

3 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Eddie took us to top half after taking over when we were bottom 3. A feat never done before or since.

 

Then he took us to the CL. All while using a bunch of players the majority of the fans considered championship standard.

 

Now things have hit a bump its all doom and gloom and sackings.

 

On Wednesday he was widely praised. 

 

Today people want him gone.

 

Football fans are fickle by nature.

No one (well, one person who is widely regarded as a wind up merchant) is saying Howe hasn’t done a great job. It seems the only defence to people’s concerns is talking about how he done a great job in getting us to the Champions League. 
 

At what point do people look at the here and now? The last 18 months rather than his first?

[Jackie Broon]

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This season? 
 

7th last season was about right for us.  

 

I don't think our owners felt that and I don't think they will settle for anything less than European qualification through the league or winning a cup this season.

[Whitley mag]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Their leadership has been ace.  
 

 

Im more concerned about our leadership than Eddie Howe (who is not doing a stellar job.  Don’t think he’s doing a bad job given the circumstances). 
 

Leadership has fumbled the squad and the finances.  Sometimes indulging Eddie when they shouldn’t have. 

Which is probably part the reason PCP are no more.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Whitley mag

[Weezertron]

Just now, duo said:

All of this is the result of us not building on the 4th finish - we should have been much more ruthless in the transfer market moving players on and using the money to upgrade.  But instead we handed contract extensions. 

I think this is precisely what the 'not fit for purpose' meant. He was right too. 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, CallumG6 said:

Just out of curiosity, what would warrant a change in your viewpoint?

Unless it looks like the players stop playing for him I would give him the season. 
 

Let the leadership sort themselves out. If they don’t want Howe fine. 

[alexf]

Feel like we constantly concede sloppy goals. It's a real handicap. 

 

Talk of replacing Howe though is annoying me. That weird trait in people always wanting something new and uncertain and forgetting all the good Howe has also done.

 

Howe has his flaws but the good outweighs the bad quote considerably.

 

The summer was a shambles really and we haven't enabled him to progress. The squad is stale and badly needed and injection of something fresh, what we got was deflation and selling two young players to cover PSR. 

 

If we finished bottom half and out of all the cups he then may have some more pressure on him. 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

I don't think our owners felt that and I don't think they will settle for anything less than European qualification through the league or winning a cup this season.

Then they are dickheads. We have the 7th/8th biggest spend on squad cost and wages.  That’s where we should finish.   

[Ronaldo]

3 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

No one (well, one person who is widely regarded as a wind up merchant) is saying Howe hasn’t done a great job. It seems the only defence to people’s concerns is talking about how he done a great job in getting us to the Champions League. 
 

At what point do people look at the here and now? The last 18 months rather than his first?

A lot of people don’t and won’t. It’s the contrast between the mentality of our lot and Man U. 2 trophies, 2 qualifications for CL and EL for ETG. Bad start, out. We don’t think like that. It’s a just happy to be here mentality hanging over from the Ashley days.

[Joe1984]

1 minute ago, Danh1 said:

No one (well, one person who is widely regarded as a wind up merchant) is saying Howe hasn’t done a great job. It seems the only defence to people’s concerns is talking about how he done a great job in getting us to the Champions League. 
 

At what point do people look at the here and now? The last 18 months rather than his first?

The 18 months were we have been hammered with injuries? 

 

Things aren't great results wise, but everyone here knows they could be worse.

 

Far worse.

 

Of course they could also be better.

 

How good do you think our squad is?

 

Do you think its a top 4 squad? Top 6? 

 

I think we are Top 8. Of course I hope for more but that's the level I think we are right now.

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said:

He was his own worst enemy giving us Champions League so soon, and bringing us all memories forever with the PSG game. 
 

Now everyone is expecting him, with his hands tied to keep providing that.

Yes and no. I do think he is a victim of his own success to some degree. Too much too soon. Then Last season also had an unprecedented amount of bad luck and injuries. 
 

 

But we now look nothing like a team ready to push for a European place. So many of the same weaknesses are on show every week and most of this season we have looked poor. 
 

I’ve been saying every week that I think things will improve, I think he’ll turn it around, he deserves a bit of time. But not sure how long you can keep saying that for and unexpectedly. That second half today was when my mind was made up that he won’t turn things around. As it was the same old shit we’ve seen all year. 
 

The squad isn’t perfect, certain players are past it or not good enough. But this team is better than what we have shown for all but about 4-5 league games this season. Performances and results wise. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I didn’t see the game today but I feel like he should’ve just started the exact same team as the last match. Bollocks to tiredness and all that shit. They were in good spirits and had just rattled the best team in the league. Taking out Gordon and Tonali seemed an error.

 

That said, people have said we played well in the first half so I dunno. 

[The Butcher]

16 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Owners and leadership haven’t put together a squad and atmosphere that can compete above station.  

Howay man.

 

 

[Collage]

2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Sure but when we start winning they will love Howe again.

 

Fickle. 

 

Again most fans are. It's part of football.

I love Eddie, but when the team keeps underperforming and not getting results, you have to consider a change. It's nothing personal. I'm still not convinced he should be sacked though. It's nothing like the Pardew/Bruce days when I literally would take anyone, Eddie will be a hard act to follow.

[HaydnNUFC]

2 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

The 18 months were we have been hammered with injuries? 

 

Things aren't great results wise, but everyone here knows they could be worse.

 

Far worse.

 

Of course they could also be better.

 

How good do you think our squad is?

 

Do you think its a top 4 squad? Top 6? 

 

I think we are Top 8. Of course I hope for more but that's the level I think we are right now.

 

Outside of Botman we have had no major injuries this season, yet we are still as consistently wank away as we were last season but there's also been some rubbish served up at SJP. 

 

We could be even worse than we are now is not an argument for me, like.

 

We have a squad that imo can compete in that 4th-8th range. We look nowhere near that and haven't done for ages.

[Lush Vlad]

2 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Howay man.

 

 

The squad is much better than what it is showing. Yes the 4th place was over-achieving. But the performances on the whole this year are miles away from where we need to be. Results are not much better. 

[Joe1984]

1 minute ago, Collage said:

I love Eddie, but when the team keeps underperforming and not getting results, you have to consider a change. It's nothing personal. I'm still not convinced he should be sacked though. It's nothing like the Pardew/Bruce days when I literally would take anyone, Eddie will be a hard act to follow.

Agreed. But changing the manager doesn't guarantee the players will start performing suddenly.

 

Look at Man U...

[Andy]

8 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

I think we are Top 8. Of course I hope for more but that's the level I think we are right now.

 

Unfortunately we aren't even performing at that level, though, and we haven't been since the start of this season. You can't drop points against an endless list of poor teams and expect to finish top 8, especially with how competitive the league is this year. 

 

The away form in particular goes back even further than this season, to the start of last season. I remember making posts about being concerned by some of our away performances and results a year ago, even before the injury crisis kicked in. 

 

I feel like on paper we had a relatively easy start to the season and no major injury woes apart from the usual candidates (or those who were already out long term), so there aren't really any excuses for it. 

 

The massive contrast in our performances against bigger clubs compared to the clubs that we should be beating is the biggest cause for concern IMO, as it speaks to a lack of motivation and concentration in those games.