Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

[Billy Pilgrim]

2 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

Think some are being harsh on Howe like.

 

Hes working with a sub standard squad in sub standard facilities. We have injury prone  players in key positions, we have an entire squad that appears to lack mental strength and/or confidence - maybe the saudi trip will help with this?

 

While it might be argued that none of the players, except Joelinton has improved - have any of them got worse? I dont think so.

 

What no ones mentioned yet, and for which Howe gets no credit, is that hes got the players fit. Maybe he doesnt deserve any credit for this as its such a basic part of his job. But also, while hes had 10 games, how many of those games have the players been fit enough to canny out his game plan for the full 90 mins? Maybe 6?

 

My worry at the moment is that its taking, on average, 1 week to bring a new player in. This means we bring in 2 more, hopefully a DM and a CD. Id really like to see another CD or LB, both preferably.

 

Sacking Howe would lead to more uncertainty in the club and in the players,  then another bedding in phase with a new manager. Not to mention even more criticism from fans and press that we could do without.

 

We always knew the key to staying up would be the transfer window - we are only half way through it.

It’s a harsh world where losers die and winners thrive.

[Yelevats]

1 minute ago, alijmitchell said:

It’s almost as if it was naive to think this current squad could play their way out of this. This is not a group of players that can play attacking, possession based football.

Being naive is a habit of people who don’t have a clue at what they are doing 

[Gallowgate Toon]

1 minute ago, macphisto said:

Even more depressing when you consider that he only won 2 of his last 13 Premier League matches at Bournemouth. Worth noting that both Bournemouth then and Newcastle now are not newly promoted teams that you might expect to go on these type of winless runs.

 

I'd love to what his relegation with Bournemouth taught him?

We've been on long winless runs every year since we came back up, like.

[Whitley mag]

3 minutes ago, macphisto said:

You wouldn't say Pep, of all people, doesn't meet all of this criteria?  Going back to Howe, one of the most important things you need to do be able to do in a relegation fight is to inspire players to believe they are better than they are/play without fear and he just hasn't done it.

 

We have all mocked Bruce but I can see how he initially lifts the morale of a team when he first joins a club and I just don't get that with Howe. 

 

Yeah, it’s a shame KK wasn’t a few years younger he would have inspired the cunts. I think Howe’s clearly a student of the game, but I totally get where your coming from that’s how I feel about him tonight.

 

As it happens I don’t think Emery would have been any better, as I can’t see these players responding to a technical European coach either.

 

Maybe Gerrard was that type of figure who would have inspired but also rattled a few of their fucking cages.

[Collage]

7 minutes ago, macphisto said:

You wouldn't say Pep, of all people, doesn't meet all of this criteria?  Going back to Howe, one of the most important things you need to do be able to do in a relegation fight is to inspire players to believe they are better than they are/play without fear and he just hasn't done it.

 

We have all mocked Bruce but I can see how he initially lifts the morale of a team when he first joins a club and I just don't get that with Howe. 

 

I’m saying charisma and good management are different things. We see managers doing interviews and think they’re more or less charismatic, that says fuck all about their man management.

[macphisto]

2 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

We've been on long winless runs every year since we came back up, like.

1 win by mid-January?

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

1 hour ago, Elephant said:

Do you honestly think Emery would have said yes to Chris Wood? Or Rafa?

 

Howe said yes, because obviously manager has to accept the signings. And for me that’s very concerning.

 

We can’t sign big names like Coutinho or Digne because Howe is not attracting manager. And right now we need class more than anything else.

 

Coutinho and Digne chose Villa because they're not in a relegation battle with a high chance of being relegated. Not because Howe is our manager. None of us wanted Gerrard as manager either so it's a bit rich saying we have an unattractive manager in comparison. Think Rafa could have well said yes to Wood were he our manager as well, tbh. Given the circumstances.

[Gallowgate Toon]

We've literally signed Kieran Trippier who is a genuinely elite right back 

[matta]

Just now, POOT 2.0 said:

 

Yup. It's this signing that has be clutching at straws, right now. And absolute quality signing of the highest level, IMHO. Somebody did something very very right  

 

Just repeat 4 more times, please  

Exactly what needs to be done!

[macphisto]

2 minutes ago, Collage said:

I’m saying charisma and good management are different things. We see managers doing interviews and think they’re more or less charismatic, that says fuck all about their man management.

That's not how I see charisma, I've given you a rough idea of my definition both in the examples I quoted and Forbes article. You can't divorcee man management from charisma as they are intertwined (again, refer to the Forbes article). I couldn't give a toss about interviews but for me Howe doesn't have much of a personality or presence (charisma) to inspire players. We certainly haven't had the new manager bounce under him.

[HaydnNUFC]

Poor from him today and the results don't paint him in any light. That defence is garbage plus the attack has seemed to gone backwards. But plenty of revisionism going on in here. Hate this fucking place

[MarkyMark]

Smith winning three games since joining Norwich is the most damning fact of all. We’ve burned through winnable home games over the last couple of months. 

 

I know the players are crap - we’re where we are for a reason - but this isn’t a side that’s losing 5-0 every week.  We’re chucking away winning positions every week - it’s fine margins stuff - and that’s where your manager earns a crust.  I’ve seen the square root of sod all change in that department so far. 

[SUPERTOON]

I just think all his weaknesses we knew from his time at Bournemouth and all the reservations a few of us had on here regarding his appointment are blindingly evident so far here. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

10 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

Smith winning three games since joining Norwich is the most damning fact of all. We’ve burned through winnable home games over the last couple of months. 

 

I know the players are crap - we’re where we are for a reason - but this isn’t a side that’s losing 5-0 every week.  We’re chucking away winning positions every week - it’s fine margins stuff - and that’s where your manager earns a crust.  I’ve seen the square root of sod all change in that department so far. 

Is that true, or is it mistakes and bad quality throwing away what the manager wants? 

[ExiledGeordie]

23 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I just think all his weaknesses we knew from his time at Bournemouth and all the reservations a few of us had on here regarding his appointment are blindingly evident so far here. 

My brother who has played a bit of football and I’ll defer to regards footballing knowledge had concerns about Howe coming in. He was worried that the defensive side wouldn’t improve at all which desperately needed sorting. I think some of his concerns have been proved right so far. 

[elbee909]

Nice guy. Can't help but have doubts. Better than Bruce absolutely but just not enough in his locker.

[SUPERTOON]

6 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

My brother who has played a bit of football and I’ll defer to regards footballing knowledge had concerns about Howe coming in. He was worried that the defensive side wouldn’t improve at all which desperately needed sorting. I think some of his concerns have been proved right so far. 

I’m actually more concerned in a way with how out attacking play still seems so limited considering he’s known as an attacking manager.

[Beth]

Had reservations when we signed him but kept quiet about them, but nailing my colours to the mast now. He's shite and we'll do fuck all bar go down with him in charge. Feel free to bookmark this.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

That's not like you, Beth. 

[RodneyCisse]

Worst thing is persisting with Lacelles who we all know has been stealing a living for 10+ years.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, RodneyCisse said:

Worst thing is persisting with Lacelles who we all know has been stealing a living for 10+ years.

Who should play though? We know we’re out there bidding for loads of CBs. The squad is dire. 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Considering the only other CB option is injured I kinda understand, like. When Fernandez or new singing is fit and ready though aye you'd hope he was dropped. 

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, Beth said:

Had reservations when we signed him but kept quiet about them, but nailing my colours to the mast now. He's shite and we'll do fuck all bar go down with him in charge. Feel free to bookmark this.

Pretty sure you didn’t keep quiet.

[LV]

4 minutes ago, Beth said:

Had reservations when we signed him but kept quiet about them, but nailing my colours to the mast now. He's shite and we'll do fuck all bar go down with him in charge. Feel free to bookmark this.

Kept quiet

[Shearergol]

Just now, LV said:

Kept quiet

This quiet:

 

I'll nail my colours to the mast here and say he'll be a disaster. Hope I'm proved wrong, time will tell.