Fantail Breeze Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, BeloEmre said: Ando had a decent source for team news last season (probably one of the players) but has he ever been itk for anything else? Sounds like he’s the world leading itk by the way people going on here ? Updated ITKery: Good on teamsheets Good on managers being sacked Crap on takeovers Feel like we need to test his knowledge in another area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, BeloEmre said: Ando had a decent source for team news last season (probably one of the players) but has he ever been itk for anything else? Sounds like he’s the world leading itk by the way people going on here ? Just Bruce leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jimwallace197 said: I dont get this mad love for Ten Haag, yes, very successful in a much inferior Dutch league but what else has he done to be considered a future top manager. I wouldnt go near him, if we can't get Benitez, then Favre all day long, someone who'll be able to organise the defense, play a decent style of football & save us from relegation, that's the most important thing. Not in a million years will he(Haag) get the United job, even if Sojskaer is sacked. The summer for us is a whole different matter, thats a time when we can take our time and make sure we get the appointment right along with the players. Now is not the time to be making a play for a manager under contract already & is going to be looking for huge wages. He might fold in a PL relegation battle & what kind of a situation would that leave us in. We need a safe experienced pair of hands, not the next up & coming who may or may not be successful. Give it to Favre if Benitez can't be secured. That's our best chance of survival. Can someone wash this lads mouth out with soap and water please, Ten Hag is my new Keegan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Except you can get 7/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 it's a tricky spot they're in actually - if they have a target in mind that they're willing to wait for that's fine and dandy but then you need to draft in a fixer to try and keep us up and who is gonna want to take that job unless it's some shitbag like allardyce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) Ando said from day one the takeover would happen and leading upto it actually happening he was 100% confident and said it WILL happen. Edited October 26, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 He wouldn't know though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Elephant said: You do realize that Favre is awful at organizing defense? I’ve been watching BVB every week last 15 years and Favre is easily worst during that time in organizing defense. i have been very active saying NO to Favre, because he is NOT good enough. Horrible at organizing defense, even worse at making changes during the game. During Favre’s time BVB was completely relying in good attacking players on the expense of defense. BVB kept conceding 4-5 goals against likes of Stuttgart and Hoffenheim, because Favre’s team kept week in week out giving out easy goals. At the end it was so easy to attack against Dortmund that no matter how good the attack was, the defense was so poorly organized that the balance was not there at all. Favre also has bad habit at not being able to turn around the results after things did not work anymore. His last season at Gladbach is something worth remembering before giving him any job. Or obviously his end at BVB. I have kept saying here that Favre is NOT the right man for us, but players like Håland and Sancho did so much good that even with Favre’s complete lack of balance and organizing defence many still see him as good option. Amanda read this: NO to Favre! I'm not going to argue with a fan that watches his team week in and week out, when I haven't, but doesn't this totally discount the jobs he did at Gladbach and Nice? Which were excellent on the whole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Wandy said: I know nowt about Ten Hag but his apparent lack of enthusiasm for the job is a huge red flag for me. It's got to be Favre or Fonseca IMO. I don’t think its a lack of enthusiasm, more a lack of knowledge. He’s being touted as one of the upcoming elite managers and is probably looking at us and seeing a club second bottom of the league with no structure yet in place with the owners and not wanting to take a risk. I think if we brought in someone like Overmars in, who he’s currently working with, who could then say to him they have a five year goal of winning the league, you’ll have X amount per window and your salary will be up there with Klopp and Guardiola he’d be straight here. Right now though, we have no DOF in place and no idea exactly what the new owners want/expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Fuck knows what's going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Thomson Mouse said: Benitez for me. A safe pair of hands who knows the club and can get on with the academy and training ground rebuild. Even if it’s just for the next three years or so which I doubt it would be Me too. He knows the cloob. He can begin the rebuild and pass on his dossier to the next guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, STM said: Fuck knows what's going on. Exciting though isn’t it. At least we know good shit is going on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jordan said: I don’t think its a lack of enthusiasm, more a lack of knowledge. He’s being touted as one of the upcoming elite managers and is probably looking at us and seeing a club second bottom of the league with no structure yet in place with the owners and not wanting to take a risk. I think if we brought in someone like Overmars in, who he’s currently working with, who could then say to him they have a five year goal of winning the league, you’ll have X amount per window and your salary will be up there with Klopp and Guardiola he’d be straight here. Right now though, we have no DOF in place and no idea exactly what the new owners want/expect. More simple than that, he's probably just a professional and has rebuilt after their class CL run to be having a good season and probably doesn't want to abandon them at this time which is spot on really. He'll also know he'll not be shy of a job offer or two come the summer so there's hardly massive pressure there and this is his only chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: More simple than that, he's probably just a professional and has rebuilt after their class CL run to be having a good season and probably doesn't want to abandon them at this time which is spot on really. He'll also know he'll not be shy of a job offer or two come the summer so there's hardly massive pressure there and this is his only chance. He would be daft to leave Ajax for us in our current state. I can see why Overmars would though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Odds all over the place indicates no-one has a clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Isn’t it pretty much confirmed Jones is in for Chelsea so any odds changes this week would be likely irrelevant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Isn’t it pretty much confirmed Jones is in for Chelsea so any odds changes this week would be likely irrelevant? Yeah, confirmed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Given they interviewed Fonseca two to three times, you'd imagine they have a shortlist and are doing the same for all candidates before selecting their man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 @Ando7, wherever you are, get yourself in here now and drop some more teasing information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'm not going to argue with a fan that watches his team week in and week out, when I haven't, but doesn't this totally discount the jobs he did at Gladbach and Nice? Which were excellent on the whole. Yes, have to give him respect on those, however the last season with Gladback was far more than horrible and he has shown that he is unable to change when things are going bad and that is very worrying considering our situation. We have to remember that Gladbach is not small club and he had very good side there, so he wasn’t doing somehow special job there. Gladbach has resources to do well and they have done well after him too. And same goes with Nice, they do have money to spend and it’s not like Nice and Gladbach are small clubs that he got to overperform - not at all. He did decent job for small time there. Did not do spectacular job, but not horrible neither. He has been having luxury to spend money and get good players to work with. It would be big gamble to put him working with this side, although we will probably spend in January. He is NOT great option and many people seem to see him much better option than what he really is. It’s not about good balanced defense with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Feel sorry for Fonseca, at this point without having any inside knowledge he looks like he’s being treat as the backup plan. Which is great for us, at a minimum we’re getting someone like him but of course there is a chance someone better is also interested. Lovely position to be in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Odds are just a reflection of media reports × likelihood. Very rarely is a change manager odds because of an inside tip off. Not that you would ever know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, HTT II said: Ando said from day one the takeover would happen and leading upto it actually happening he was 100% confident and said it WILL happen. The consortium didn’t even know it was happening till the day before it happened ffs that said I do believe in Ando Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elephant said: Yes, have to give him respect on those, however the last season with Gladback was far more than horrible and he has shown that he is unable to change when things are going bad and that is very worrying considering our situation. We have to remember that Gladbach is not small club and he had very good side there, so he wasn’t doing somehow special job there. Gladbach has resources to do well and they have done well after him too. And same goes with Nice, they do have money to spend and it’s not like Nice and Gladbach are small clubs that he got to overperform - not at all. He did decent job for small time there. Did not do spectacular job, but not horrible neither. He has been having luxury to spend money and get good players to work with. It would be big gamble to put him working with this side, although we will probably spend in January. He is NOT great option and many people seem to see him much better option than what he really is. It’s not about good balanced defense with him. Good to hear the views of a fan who has first hand experience. Mind, if he's decent at spending a bit of cash to get underperformed clubs up the table, he sounds ideal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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