Billy Pilgrim Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: We have a manager, an assistant manager and a first team coach? Just need a pigeon disposal coach and we’re ready to rock and roll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Simon Smith stays on for the fourth manager in a row then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, HTT II said: Too many cooks spoil the broth I read this differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, xLiaaamx said: Simon Smith stays on for the fourth manager in a row then I may have made this up in my head, but he's considered one of the best keeper coaches out there isnt he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I read this differently. To many cocks spoil the brothel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I read this differently. Both true I imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: I read this differently. I’m joking of course, I’m delighted we will soon have some key personnel, other than jobs for the boys and people go our the cones out or call in Bruce’s takeaway orders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said: To many cocks spoil the brothel? One cock spoils the broth imo. Unless it's a hygienic one. Edited November 5, 2021 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Robster said: I'm quite ambivalent towards GJ but that Fernandez comment was very odd. I can only hope that it was just poorly verbalised and that what he meant was something more sensible. He obviously just doesn’t rate him, and came up with some baffling nonsense as an excuse. Could have definitely worded it better, but to be fair, he isn’t used to the public speaking aspect. Saying that though, that excuse was a crazy thing to say, it doesn’t even make the slightest bit of sense. Edited November 5, 2021 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, reefatoon said: He obviously just doesn’t rate him, and came up with some baffling nonsense as an excuse. Could have definitely worded it better, but to be fair, he isn’t used to the public speaking aspect. Saying that though, that excuse was a crazy thing to say as it doesn’t even make the slightest bit of sense. ? You can read it a million times over and no sense whatsoever will be found in that statement ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 What are we thinking? Announced tomorrow morning, Howe (and maybe Tindall) in the stands with BT cutting to him every 10 minutes as we get pumped four-nowt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: One cock spoils the broth imo. Unless it's a hygienic one. Stop stirring it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Makes more sense to announce tonight rather than shift focus from the match tomorrow and have the players unsure when they hit the sack tonight. Just give them clarity tonight and let the match be the focus tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, RS said: Stop stirring it One hot broth spoils the cock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Details what he's been getting up to since leaving Bournemouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Is that weird? Coaches and managers are two vastly different things (the debate about Jones being a current example of this). I have no idea to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Details what he's been getting up to since leaving Bournemouth Fuck me, I'm all in like. Have a really good feeling about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Details what he's been getting up to since leaving Bournemouth More and more excited about what this guy could be at newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, McDog said: Makes more sense to announce tonight rather than shift focus from the match tomorrow and have the players unsure when they hit the sack tonight. Just give them clarity tonight and let the match be the focus tomorrow. If it is happening they will have been told Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Deputy Dawg UK said: If it is happening they will have been told Yea, I thought about it after I typed that. They'd let the team know first of course but why sit on it I guess once they did. Hopefully soon, looking forward to see how he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Quote And so Howe has spent a sizable part of the past year reflecting on what he did right and what he did wrong at Bournemouth, particularly in that painful final season. That has meant re-watching their matches and reassessing the training sessions, of which all were carefully logged, to better understand how his players reacted to what he had been trying to achieve. Howe has his own football philosophy document and, in also watching plenty of football, often live with his two boys, he has been constantly updating his own attacking vision for the game. No way our previous cunt of a manager did anything like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Fuck me, I'm all in like. Have a really good feeling about this. Absolutely. Just desperately hope that, from those in the stands, he'll get the time and patience he'll need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 If anyone can copy paste the Telegraph article for us overseas peeps, would be appreciated. I'm not giving that Tory rag any payment details! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, elbee909 said: If anyone can copy paste the Telegraph article for us overseas peeps, would be appreciated. I'm not giving that Tory rag any payment details! It is not a perfect metric but the adage that you can best measure a manager’s worth by the state of a club at the beginning and end of their tenure remains as reliable as any. And when Eddie Howe became Bournemouth manager in January 2009, they were 23rd in League Two, 10 points adrift of safety and fighting not just for their Football League survival but their very existence as a club. When he left 11 years later, Bournemouth were exiting the Premier League following five straight seasons in the top-flight, three promotions and easily the greatest era in the club’s history. Yes, the fairy tale did not have the ending he wanted, but the bottom line is that Newcastle United would be getting a 43-year-old manager of vast, if often understated, substance. His use of the 15 months since leaving Bournemouth has been instructive. There have been no media interviews. No self-promotion. No getting his name linked with any enticing vacancy. Howe has instead utilised his first sustained break from playing or managing for a combination of family time – his eldest boys Harry and Rocky are budding footballers – and the chance to prepare for his managerial return. This has meant looking back as well as forward. And so Howe has spent a sizable part of the past year reflecting on what he did right and what he did wrong at Bournemouth, particularly in that painful final season. That has meant re-watching their matches and reassessing the training sessions, of which all were carefully logged, to better understand how his players reacted to what he had been trying to achieve. Howe has his own football philosophy document and, in also watching plenty of football, often live with his two boys, he has been constantly updating his own attacking vision for the game. He has taken time to visit other clubs and understand how they work, notably Diego Simeone’s Atletico Madrid. The Argentine coach has proved himself one of the masters of adaptation, taking on the big two in Spain with a distinctive style of play that has yielded great success, including two league titles. Howe also visited another Madrid club, Rayo Vallecano, who were promoted last season to La Liga. At Vallecano he has encountered a different kind of coach, albeit one whose journey is similar to his own. When Howe left Bournemouth they were exiting the Premier League following five straight seasons in the top flight CREDIT: PA Andoni Iraola, 39, briefly a Spain international in his playing days, not only has got Vallecano promoted from the second tier but the club, who have spent more time out of the first tier over their history, are currently sixth in Liga – vastly outperforming their budget. Two days were also spent at Liverpool including a meeting with the architect of the club’s golden recruitment era, technical director Michael Edwards. Howe recognises that recruitment will be critical for Newcastle, especially when the club try to navigate this next January transfer window, and he will also know that it was an area which faltered to some extent towards the end of his Bournemouth tenure. At Liverpool he also met Alex Inglethorpe, the club’s academy director. He wanted to understand how the club have overhauled their structure over the past decade to a level that is allowing them to overcome the financial disadvantages and compete so consistently with Manchester City. He has already spent long hours assessing the Newcastle players and there would be immediate familiar faces in Callum Wilson, Ryan Fraser and Matt Ritchie, three players whose careers he has already influenced hugely. There would be risks, of course, on all sides. Howe’s only previous job outside of Dorset – just under two years at Burnley – was not the failure that is occasionally presented but certainly a time when he struggled to inspire the sort of improvement that Bournemouth fans had come to expect. The wider backdrop was also the most difficult personal period of his life following the death of his mother Anne. He felt a need to return to Dorset in 2012 and the people he knew best.Yet the legacy he left at Burnley was strong. He signed Ben Mee, now club captain and one of the most important Burnley players of the Sean Dyche era. Also from Manchester City’s development teams, Howe signed Kieran Trippier, now an England regular and occasional England captain. The combined cost of those two was around £600,000. Another future England international, Danny Ings, arrived from Bournemouth for just £1 million. His next club would be Liverpool. Back at Bournemouth he was able to shape the club almost completely in his own image, right down to the messaging around the stadium to the surface of the training pitches and the shape of the dining tables. The staff around him, headed by his assistant Jason Tindall – often a more demonstrative touchline presence – and numerous other ex-team-mates were hand-picked. Some will follow him to Newcastle. Callum Wilson will once again be under the guidance of former boss Eddie Howe at Newcastle CREDIT: Shutterstock Harry Redknapp would say that football fandom got progressively more laid-back as you travelled along the south-coast between Portsmouth and Bournemouth via Southampton and there can be no doubt that Howe would be operating under a scrutiny at Newcastle that he has never previously known. He is said to be excited by the prospect and would certainly attempt to deal with all the outside noise by simply focussing on improving the team. The experience of working previously with Maxim Demin at Bournemouth, hardly a conventional owner, would also stand him in good stead for what might follow. The hope must be that Newcastle’s new Saudi Arabian owners, represented in England by Amanda Staveley, now give him the autonomy to shape the club in his image and the time for change to take hold. Howe has often spoken about how his mother instilled in him a work ethic that, even by the obsessional standards of football managers, is all-consuming and that he thinks about her before every game. He has an eclectic range of influences and can talk with as much passion about what he learnt in a dressing-room with Tony Pulis and Sean O’Driscoll at Bournemouth as time spent studying managers like Brendan Rodgers and Arsene Wenger, or the legendary basketball coach John Wooden. Like Wooden, Howe is most fascinated by the process and the compound impact of relentlessly high-quality training and preparation. “There’s a lot of worry in the world,” he once said. “The reality is that it’s all about the preparation. You hope then that the result takes care of itself in the knowledge that you have done everything in your power to produce the best performance.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, elbee909 said: If anyone can copy paste the Telegraph article for us overseas peeps, would be appreciated. I'm not giving that Tory rag any payment details! Quote It is not a perfect metric but the adage that you can best measure a manager’s worth by the state of a club at the beginning and end of their tenure remains as reliable as any. And when Eddie Howe became Bournemouth manager in January 2009, they were 23rd in League Two, 10 points adrift of safety and fighting not just for their Football League survival but their very existence as a club. When he left 11 years later, Bournemouth were exiting the Premier League following five straight seasons in the top-flight, three promotions and easily the greatest era in the club’s history. Yes, the fairy tale did not have the ending he wanted, but the bottom line is that Newcastle United would be getting a 43-year-old manager of vast, if often understated, substance. His use of the 15 months since leaving Bournemouth has been instructive. There have been no media interviews. No self-promotion. No getting his name linked with any enticing vacancy. Howe has instead utilised his first sustained break from playing or managing for a combination of family time – his eldest boys Harry and Rocky are budding footballers – and the chance to prepare for his managerial return. This has meant looking back as well as forward. And so Howe has spent a sizable part of the past year reflecting on what he did right and what he did wrong at Bournemouth, particularly in that painful final season. That has meant re-watching their matches and reassessing the training sessions, of which all were carefully logged, to better understand how his players reacted to what he had been trying to achieve. Howe has his own football philosophy document and, in also watching plenty of football, often live with his two boys, he has been constantly updating his own attacking vision for the game. He has taken time to visit other clubs and understand how they work, notably Diego Simeone’s Atletico Madrid. The Argentine coach has proved himself one of the masters of adaptation, taking on the big two in Spain with a distinctive style of play that has yielded great success, including two league titles. Howe also visited another Madrid club, Rayo Vallecano, who were promoted last season to La Liga. At Vallecano he has encountered a different kind of coach, albeit one whose journey is similar to his own. Andoni Iraola, 39, briefly a Spain international in his playing days, not only has got Vallecano promoted from the second tier but the club, who have spent more time out of the first tier over their history, are currently sixth in Liga – vastly outperforming their budget. Two days were also spent at Liverpool including a meeting with the architect of the club’s golden recruitment era, technical director Michael Edwards. Howe recognises that recruitment will be critical for Newcastle, especially when the club try to navigate this next January transfer window, and he will also know that it was an area which faltered to some extent towards the end of his Bournemouth tenure. At Liverpool he also met Alex Inglethorpe, the club’s academy director. He wanted to understand how the club have overhauled their structure over the past decade to a level that is allowing them to overcome the financial disadvantages and compete so consistently with Manchester City. He has already spent long hours assessing the Newcastle players and there would be immediate familiar faces in Callum Wilson, Ryan Fraser and Matt Ritchie, three players whose careers he has already influenced hugely. There would be risks, of course, on all sides. Howe’s only previous job outside of Dorset – just under two years at Burnley – was not the failure that is occasionally presented but certainly a time when he struggled to inspire the sort of improvement that Bournemouth fans had come to expect. The wider backdrop was also the most difficult personal period of his life following the death of his mother Anne. He felt a need to return to Dorset in 2012 and the people he knew best.Yet the legacy he left at Burnley was strong. He signed Ben Mee, now club captain and one of the most important Burnley players of the Sean Dyche era. Also from Manchester City’s development teams, Howe signed Kieran Trippier, now an England regular and occasional England captain. The combined cost of those two was around £600,000. Another future England international, Danny Ings, arrived from Bournemouth for just £1 million. His next club would be Liverpool. Back at Bournemouth he was able to shape the club almost completely in his own image, right down to the messaging around the stadium to the surface of the training pitches and the shape of the dining tables. The staff around him, headed by his assistant Jason Tindall – often a more demonstrative touchline presence – and numerous other ex-team-mates were hand-picked. Some will follow him to Newcastle. Harry Redknapp would say that football fandom got progressively more laid-back as you travelled along the south-coast between Portsmouth and Bournemouth via Southampton and there can be no doubt that Howe would be operating under a scrutiny at Newcastle that he has never previously known. He is said to be excited by the prospect and would certainly attempt to deal with all the outside noise by simply focussing on improving the team. The experience of working previously with Maxim Demin at Bournemouth, hardly a conventional owner, would also stand him in good stead for what might follow. The hope must be that Newcastle’s new Saudi Arabian owners, represented in England by Amanda Staveley, now give him the autonomy to shape the club in his image and the time for change to take hold. Howe has often spoken about how his mother instilled in him a work ethic that, even by the obsessional standards of football managers, is all-consuming and that he thinks about her before every game. He has an eclectic range of influences and can talk with as much passion about what he learnt in a dressing-room with Tony Pulis and Sean O’Driscoll at Bournemouth as time spent studying managers like Brendan Rodgers and Arsene Wenger, or the legendary basketball coach John Wooden. Like Wooden, Howe is most fascinated by the process and the compound impact of relentlessly high-quality training and preparation. “There’s a lot of worry in the world,” he once said. “The reality is that it’s all about the preparation. You hope then that the result takes care of itself in the knowledge that you have done everything in your power to produce the best performance.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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