Numbers Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Exactly how I feel, and like you I literally never want to see Bruce’s fat face ever again. It’s weird it’s like any criticism is met with “oh yeah get rid of him great idea!” I don’t want him gone. However 1 win in 9 and this loss today is the stark reality Under Howe we have been massively unlucky, fucked by VAR/individual errors. Under Bruce over the years we were massively lucky, was only a matter of time before that luck ran out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Who's said we should sack him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, kisearch said: Context is everything, especially after the takeover, yet always gets ignored for some bizarre reason. People used to say the same about Rafa, that he should only be judged on what he was doing at Newcastle. Nonsense, Rafa got leeway because he'd been a very successful manager for years, Steve Bruce got a hard time straight away because we had 20 years of watching him being a shit football manager. Eddie Howe will get a good chance because we saw what he achieved with Bournemouth and what he's trying to do here. Deliberately ignoring the wider context and keeping the blinkers only on their time at Newcastle is deliberate ignorance surely. I'm judging him based on what I'm seeing him deliver at NUFC, I'm not interested in his time at Bournemouth. I'm not in any way suggesting he gets the bullet, btw, but what I am saying is that he's had very very limited material impact since Bruce left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 win from 9 games is always going to have questions asked. Especially when that includes three home games against Cambridge, Norwich and Brentford achieving 1 point and a cup exit. A lot of our issues are from Bruce, but he’s had nine games to start churning improvements out and other than Joelinton, I can’t think of a single other player who has improved under him. I can name a few more who have got worse though. I don’t think he’s helped by the fact players are going to be very unsettled knowing they are going to be replaced. But as I’ve said before, he isn’t making best use of the players he currently has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Minhosa said: I don't think the squad is as bad as everyone makes out tbh. Certainly capable of survival before the new owners go and throw £100m at it. If we go down now, after huge spend, it's just as much on Howe as Bruce for me tbh. Not sure that's true tbh. We survived with sheer luck two seasons ago, loads of late goals from defenders, then last season we looked doomed until Willock arrived and started scoring for fun. This season we had 3 points from 7 games and the park the bus tactics had been rumbled. There's no way we were surviving playing that way either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Could you point me to a post asking him to be sacked? I wasn't referring to your post, just the mood of the forum generally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Really, really dissapointed he didn't give Anderson or White a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 “He’s fucking shite” is a fairly good indicator that someone wants him sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Fantail Breeze said: 1 win from 9 games is always going to have questions asked. Especially when that includes three home games against Cambridge, Norwich and Brentford achieving 1 point and a cup exit. A lot of our issues are from Bruce, but he’s had nine games to start churning improvements out and other than Joelinton, I can’t think of a single other player who has improved under him. I can name a few more who have got worse though. I don’t think he’s helped by the fact players are going to be very unsettled knowing they are going to be replaced. But as I’ve said before, he isn’t making best use of the players he currently has. Which players do you think could be improved? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 No one wants him sacked though. It's far too early, doesn't necessarily mean he's immune to criticism. If he has another 9 games with a similar % ratio then people will start to get uncomfortable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I wasn't referring to your post, just the mood of the forum generally. So just criticism of him after losing at home to league 1 Cambridge = forum mood of wanting him sacked. Yes, some had said he's shite etc but that is not a forum mood. That's one of the worst takes I can remember. Edited January 8, 2022 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelevats Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 He keeps losing games . Fact. Losing more than the previous clown. At least the previous clown didn’t lose against lower league opponents. Dare I say it Bruce led squad wins today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Menace said: No one wants him sacked though. It's far too early, doesn't necessarily mean he's immune to criticism. If he has another 9 games with a similar % ratio then people will start to get uncomfortable And we’ll be relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, number9shirt said: So far very underwhelmed, is Howe the right man for the job? don’t want him sacked though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 It's clear that most people on here aren't calling for him to be sacked, just as these 560 pages are clear that he isn't getting a necessarily easy ride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Yelevats said: He keeps losing games . Fact. Losing more than the previous clown. At least the previous clown didn’t lose against lower league opponents. Dare I say it Bruce led squad wins today. Crazy talk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Yelevats said: He keeps losing games . Fact. Losing more than the previous clown. At least the previous clown didn’t lose against lower league opponents. Dare I say it Bruce led squad wins today. don’t want him sacked though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Minhosa said: I'm judging him based on what I'm seeing him deliver at NUFC, I'm not interested in his time at Bournemouth. I'm not in any way suggesting he gets the bullet, btw, but what I am saying is that he's had very very limited material impact since Bruce left. I know you are and that's what I'm saying is surely deliberate ignorance. It doesn't make any sense to do that, especially this early. People did the same with Rafa though so if they did it to him they're definitely gonna do it to Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Yelevats said: He keeps losing games . Fact. Losing more than the previous clown. At least the previous clown didn’t lose against lower league opponents. Dare I say it Bruce led squad wins today. Jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelevats Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Ben said: Crazy talk Crazy In what way. We have to look at things objectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: It's clear that most people on here aren't calling for him to be sacked, just as these 560 pages are clear that he isn't getting a necessarily easy ride. 80% of this thread is mostly about who we were going to appoint, not all about Howe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 He has to beat Watford, if we don't win that then he/we are struggling badly to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRon said: Which players do you think could be improved? Weird comment when we’ve seen many of the same players improved under Rafa. It’s glaringly obvious you can get more from this group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) In all fairness, if Bruce managed to keep this team with these players in Premier League last season, then we seriously need to start asking more from Howe. He is nice bloke and says good things, but can’t help thinking what these results had been with Emery. Edited January 8, 2022 by Elephant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Menace said: 80% of this thread is mostly about who we were going to appoint, not all about Howe... Pedantic much? There is plenty of evidence littered on these pages of people bitching about him from the outset, and you know it. hence why I say that he's not exactly getting an easy ride. Edited January 8, 2022 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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