BGRM Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I agree with Shearer on motd mind, Howe took that ridiculous decision "too well". He should have made a bit more of a fuss about it. The more commotion managers make: the more chance of things changing (or that's the theory anyway!). Two terrible decisions yesterday! This shit is ruining the game! Still think he's doing a good job like and I'm optimistic about what lies ahead! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Caleb70 said: I agree with Shearer on motd mind, Howe took that ridiculous decision "too well". He should have made a bit more of a fuss about it. The more commotion managers make: the more chance of things changing (or that's the theory anyway!). Two terrible decisions yesterday! This shit is ruining the game! Still think he's doing a good job like and I'm optimistic about what lies ahead! Disagree, let the pundits point out how shit the decisions are — if you're pissing and moaning all the time as a manager it's not a good look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Anon said: Disagree, let the pundits point out how shit the decisions are — if you're pissing and moaning all the time as a manager it's not a good look. Managers aren't robots though, I think every manager would have the right to moan about what happened yesterday. I agree if they did it all the time it would be an issue and isn't the way to go. However, yesterday was just bloody ridiculous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Howes just being a professional. I'm sure he espouses respect, professionalism with the players and won't let that mask drop in public. The change in our play under him has been massive. Defensively solid, comfortable on the ball and hard pressing. Compared to bruceball we are a different club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Going from "Let's pley!" to actual tactics tailored for each opposition has been a masterstroke tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Yeah, I like Howe's calm professional approach, but I don't think our players are always active enough in calling for decisions, like the Stones taking out Schar in the penalty area, if our players had called more strongly for a penalty I think it might have been given. As it was they just got on with the game and made it easier for VAR to not ask the ref to give it another look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Yeah, I like Howe's calm professional approach, but I don't think our players are always active enough in calling for decisions, like the Stones taking out Schar in the penalty area, if our players had called more strongly for a penalty I think it might have been given. As it was they just got on with the game and made it easier for VAR to not ask the ref to give it another look. I might be imagining it. But I’m sure when Lascelles is on. He is a bit more vocal and gets into the ref a bit more and the team follow suit. Trippier is a proper skipper. But he is almost like a Rugby captain at times. Always makes a massive point of pushing everyone away and having a quiet, respectful word with the ref on his own. I mean, that’s how it should be. But if all the other teams are being cunts and pressuring the officials. Then we should and all When it’s called for, at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Anon said: Disagree, let the pundits point out how shit the decisions are — if you're pissing and moaning all the time as a manager it's not a good look. Otherwise known as Klopping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) Tend to agree that Howe's been a bit of a soft touch with decisions that have gone against us. Certainly don't want a manager who's gonna bemoan every single decision that hasn't gone our way, but when the quality of the officiating has ended up costing us on such a demonstrably consistent basis, then he should absolutely be using his profile and reach to apply some pressure on the right people in order to agitate a change. Being dignified about it and taking it in your stride just makes you easier to ignore. Edited September 4, 2022 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Jesse Marsch proved yesterday that kicking off about a decision doesn't lead to it being changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 A decision, yes. A series of provably incorrect decisions which are impossible to defend is another matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Moyes had a PFM style strop about his VAR call, very aggressively showed his dissent. Howe is too measured and calm for that, no point in being overly passionate etc as it may show weakness in leadership to your team. Whereas I think he is highly respected by his group because he's a proper calm leader and spokesman and gets on with it, with integrity. Makes you respect him more and put in extra effort for the man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Apparently, our shots per game and shots on target per game this season have been the highest since Bobby. This hasn't translated into goals but still a good fundamental considering how defensively sound we generally are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Apparently, our shots per game and shots on target per game this season have been the highest since Bobby. This hasn't translated into goals but still a good fundamental considering how defensively sound we generally are. That's a great stat, and watching the performances, it's reflective and makes sense. I don't remember a time since SBR's time actually where I'd expect to dominate the game and know we're better than the opposition. This season has definitely felt like that, even if the results aren't there yet. The 5th season was a great bunch of players cobbled together without a game plan, so it was a nice bonus we finished 5th rather than expectation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Apparently, our shots per game and shots on target per game this season have been the highest since Bobby. This hasn't translated into goals but still a good fundamental considering how defensively sound we generally are. Get ASM and/or Bruno back, get Isak up to speed and we're laughing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said: Yeah, I like Howe's calm professional approach, but I don't think our players are always active enough in calling for decisions, like the Stones taking out Schar in the penalty area, if our players had called more strongly for a penalty I think it might have been given. As it was they just got on with the game and made it easier for VAR to not ask the ref to give it another look. Totally agree here like. Said at the time. Hound the ref so VAR has to intervene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Still love this man. He's everything that I'm incapable of being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I love the fact he’s building us up from the back. Our back 5 is almost completely renewed and we look very solid defensively. Really excited to see what kind of midfielder he envisions in that Shelvey/Longstaff role - a classic DM, a box-to-box or a deep lying playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, The Butcher said: I see I posted some absolute bollocks last night. Note to self - don't drink and post Apologies, I was a bit volatile after 10 brown ales too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Heron said: Apologies, I was a bit volatile after 10 brown ales too. 10!! Bragger… ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said: Totally agree here like. Said at the time. Hound the ref so VAR has to intervene I love that Trippier sends all other players away so he can talk to the ref', it's great leadership, one of the best captains I've seen for us I reckon. Howe also rises above the shit decisions too. It's professional and respectable and admirable. However... I don't know if you have to be a bit of a bastard nowadays to put pressure on those officiating like. Like will we hit a limit because we aren't applying enough pressure to get the decisions. Hard one. I think morally I'd prefer the former but realistically won't complain if we're the latter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said: 10!! Bragger… ? Didn't say I was sober Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said: Totally agree here like. Said at the time. Hound the ref so VAR has to intervene Some teams have clocked on to this already, jump up and down at the ref and they’ll check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Shagger Tindall should do the post-match interviews in games like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 12 hours ago, The Butcher said: We failed to buy a RW/CM. Europe is gone. Almiron is probably the worst starting RW in the league. It will cost us. We could start Murphy. Seriously though. Once Bruno and Wilson are fit the term RW will be meaningless. We will play with a front 3 of attacking players with a wide variety of technical ability. It''l be like playing with Shearer, Ferdinand and Beardsley. This will allow Almiron to take up the 3rd CM slot and take over Willock's duties. Right now, if we drop Willock for Almiron, it means bringing Murphy in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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