TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'd be interested to know why Howe has favoured Wilson over Isak in recent weeks, despite the poor form of the former. He's said that Isak "isn't ready" but is "getting close". Does he mean in terms of fitness? Mentally? The style of play? He's never really elaborated. It looks a really strange decision from the outside looking in. Proven pedigree in the PL? It's easy for those on the outside to say Wilson's finished, but Howe sees the guy in training week in week out. Personally I have never felt Wilson contributed all THAT much outside the box, he's a finisher first and foremost. But he's not been finishing lately, so does that mean he's done? Maybe. Or maybe he's just a striker going through a bad patch. I like Isak a lot btw, but I've seen games where he's been equally anonymous when we aren't getting in behind teams. I think Isak will start next week, but there's no guarantees he will tear Wolves apart unless we can get the rest of our game in gear. Personally I think our football has regressed since Willock got out of the team, our football has become less fluid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Ronaldo said: Huge respect for him but he’s been getting everything wrong for a while now. Just re-quoting this for the utter fucking horse shit of a post that it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, toon25 said: Just re-quoting this for the utter fucking horse shit of a post that it is. One of the more overdramatic posts of the day (the one you're quoting). Edited March 4, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 He’s got a golden chance now to try something new with Big Joe missing 2 very winnable (must win if top 4 is a target?) 2 up top, put in a number 10, 3 at the back. or go like for like with Willock coming in for a midfield three. Howe has evolved from his Bournemouth days and I’ve no doubt he will change his approach again with us, but he needs to quickly if the season isn’t going to end in ultimate disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, toon25 said: Just re-quoting this for the utter fucking horse shit of a post that it is. You’ll get over it eventually, bless you. But I totally stand by my opinion. Top man, done a great job but he’s got all of the big calls wrong recently, particularly with Isak and ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toon25 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: You’ll get over it eventually, bless you. But I totally stand by my opinion. Top man, done a great job but he’s got all of the big calls wrong recently, particularly with Isak and ASM. Never change Ronald, never change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: I love Pep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: I love Pep. He's class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 The thing that's so annoying about the Wilson situation is how much rope he seems to have. If any other player had played as poorly as he has for months, I can't seriously imagine they'd be still starting XI. Isak has 2 starts, 1 in a largely 10-man performance, and it's straight back on the bench. After all the focus on creating competition in the squad, it's infuriating. I don't think it'd have massively changed today's outcome but if we'd have scored or looked more fluid then we'd go into next Sunday with more confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Fuck Pep, all that praise when he wins is so disingenuous, it’s all mind games to keep the pressure on the manager and players. You measure them as people when things aren’t going on and how they treat others, including journalists.. both him and Klopp are seriously lacking there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) I love Howe and he’s doing a fantastic job but I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s over achieving and we’re now finding our way to where we probably should be. In those draws we dominated (not including Arsenal) and created plenty of chances to win but we just couldn’t score. Now it’s on Howe to persist with Wilson and not try Isak or not work ASM back into the starting 11 again, maybe if he did we’d have won some of those draws but we’ll never know. Now is Howe’s true test because he must know he needs to change it about up front. Me, I’d try a trio of ASM, Isak and Gordon next weekend. Give Miggy a rest to recharge and just drop Wilson for just being out of form, and maybe he could use the rest aswell to be fair. If he keeps persisting with the same line ups and we keep dropping points he’s going to be getting called out for it and rightly so. Edited March 4, 2023 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Gawalls said: Then he shouldn’t have spent £63m on him and put it towards a CF he would play. Do you have access to Howes bank statements? Like that decision was solely down to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 I've seen them, he's knee deep in his overdraft, worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 People questioning Howe man, honestly The mans helped to take us from the pits of despair to the heights of hope in just over a year, be careful what you wish for lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 He's done his part but he's clearly past his best. Anyone with an ounce of reasoning about them knows it's time for Zidane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, wormy said: He's done his part but he's clearly past his best. Anyone with an ounce of reasoning about them knows it's time for Zidane. He tried the lad, nothing lasts forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: People questioning Howe man, honestly The mans helped to take us from the pits of despair to the heights of hope in just over a year, be careful what you wish for lads No one is wishing anything other than Howe getting the issues going forward sorted, which I think he eventually will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 We creating chances at the end of the day..isak will likely be a wide man and we'll get a new centre forward in the summer....relax. We had a wank squad which is going to take another years work but we are in a cracking position, just some more quality need in final 3rd but we will get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, Decky said: I love Howe and he’s doing a fantastic job but I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s over achieving and we’re now finding our way to where we probably should be. In those draws we dominated (not including Arsenal) and created plenty of chances to win but we just couldn’t score. Now it’s on Howe to persist with Wilson and not try Isak or not work ASM back into the starting 11 again, maybe if he did we’d have won some of those draws but we’ll never know. Now is Howe’s true test because he must know he needs to change it about up front. Me, I’d try a trio of ASM, Isak and Gordon next weekend. Give Miggy a rest to recharge and just drop Wilson for just being out of form, and maybe he could use the rest aswell to be fair. If he keeps persisting with the same line ups and we keep dropping points he’s going to be getting called out for it and rightly so. He probably won't keep persisting with the same line ups though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: People questioning Howe man, honestly The mans helped to take us from the pits of despair to the heights of hope in just over a year, be careful what you wish for lads Surely we can criticise some decisions he's made while being delighted at the work he's done in the last year and a half? Otherwise what's the point in having a forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 It’s really difficult to know how to feel. Because on the one hand, we are going through a hell of a run of games where we have barely scored and haven’t won many. But then we are still playing well for the most part and the players are all still putting a shift in. So it is hard to criticise too much. We have just been lacklustre in front of goal and some sloppy play at the back has resulted in goals against us. I do feel we have been over achieving and so many have been playing up to their ceiling and over performing most the season. So if we suddenly started looking shit, didn’t create anything, reverted back to 30% possession. Then it would somehow be easier to accept and realise that we had just hit a purple patch. But I just feel like we are not that far off picking up a few results again. A few tweaks here and there are needed, of course. So now with basically a full squad to choose from, bar Joelinton for two games. Howe has to make some tough calls in terms of personnel and maybe even formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, joeyt said: Surely we can criticise some decisions he's made while being delighted at the work he's done in the last year and a half? Otherwise what's the point in having a forum Aye nee doubting that, fairs fair nee way im pissing on anyones chips but some of the comments are disproportionate given where we were & where we are now, im nee expert or owt but I do feel strongly Howe is & always has been a perfect fit for where we were & where we will be in 4 / 5 years & I honestly hope its with him in charge as he is a complete gentleman & a magnificent man to shopfront out team. Anyway I take your point & value it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, joeyt said: Surely we can criticise some decisions he's made while being delighted at the work he's done in the last year and a half? Otherwise what's the point in having a forum By all means criticise, but then that criticism also has to be open to criticism. If it's valid it will hold up over the long term at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 58 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: People questioning Howe man, honestly The mans helped to take us from the pits of despair to the heights of hope in just over a year, be careful what you wish for lads Questioning Howe and some of his selection decisions doesn't necessarily mean wishing him gone. Reading most of the comments I'm pretty certain everyone is saying what they're saying with the context of what Howe has done in the last year or so firmly in mind, even if they didn't explicitly mention it in their posts. I think most in this thread have highlighted similar issues around selection and are hoping he makes a few changes to freshen things up after a difficult few months. It looks and feels like a few of them could do with a rest and given we've got a £62m striker and a fit-again Targett on the bench as well as today being much more suited to Maxi than next week probably will be, I think questions over why he won't sit Wilson, Almiron or Burn down for a period are very valid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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