Whitley mag Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Needs to improve his FA Cup 3rd round record that’s all I’m saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 It intrigues me that he never seems to get linked with any other jobs, apart from England. I think he functions best as a rescuer - of individual careers and clubs. At least that's his record. He might not fare so well at a LIverpool or Man Utd, where he'd have less control and would have to manage bigger names and bigger egos. Brian Clough, another rescuer, failed spectacularly when he joined Leeds. My older brother, who only has a passing interest in football, keeps telling me that we're just a stepping stone for him, but that's only based on the usual trajectory of a successful manager. My feeling is that there are horses for courses, and he's in the right place with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Stepping stone for who. I wouldn't replace him with anyone out there. He's achieved an insane amount of success already. People forget Pep/Klopp have had years to get the players and the fitness/tactics they want. Let's see how we fair against them next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cronky said: It intrigues me that he never seems to get linked with any other jobs, apart from England. I think he functions best as a rescuer - of individual careers and clubs. At least that's his record. He might not fare so well at a LIverpool or Man Utd, where he'd have less control and would have to manage bigger names and bigger egos. Brian Clough, another rescuer, failed spectacularly when he joined Leeds. My older brother, who only has a passing interest in football, keeps telling me that we're just a stepping stone for him, but that's only based on the usual trajectory of a successful manager. My feeling is that there are horses for courses, and he's in the right place with us. We aren't any cunts stepping stone now like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Cronky said: It intrigues me that he never seems to get linked with any other jobs, apart from England. I think he functions best as a rescuer - of individual careers and clubs. At least that's his record. He might not fare so well at a LIverpool or Man Utd, where he'd have less control and would have to manage bigger names and bigger egos. Brian Clough, another rescuer, failed spectacularly when he joined Leeds. My older brother, who only has a passing interest in football, keeps telling me that we're just a stepping stone for him, but that's only based on the usual trajectory of a successful manager. My feeling is that there are horses for courses, and he's in the right place with us. He may have had inquiries but told them to piss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Strange how when players or managers don't want to leave you don't hear any links in the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Cronky said: It intrigues me that he never seems to get linked with any other jobs, apart from England. I think he functions best as a rescuer - of individual careers and clubs. At least that's his record. He might not fare so well at a LIverpool or Man Utd, where he'd have less control and would have to manage bigger names and bigger egos. Brian Clough, another rescuer, failed spectacularly when he joined Leeds. My older brother, who only has a passing interest in football, keeps telling me that we're just a stepping stone for him, but that's only based on the usual trajectory of a successful manager. My feeling is that there are horses for courses, and he's in the right place with us. Stepping stone to what? A lot of people really need to wake the fuck up to what the club is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 You could make a strong case to say he has the best job in world football right now. Hate the term but 'sleeping giant' with limitless backing, he's living an FM save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: You could make a strong case to say he has the best job in world football right now. Hate the term but 'sleeping giant' with limitless backing, he's living an FM save. He doesn't have this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, nemtizz said: Strange how when players or managers don't want to leave you don't hear any links in the press. Paul Dummett given a new deal with a non disclosure clause on speaking to Craig Hurp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Cronky said: It intrigues me that he never seems to get linked with any other jobs, apart from England. I think he functions best as a rescuer - of individual careers and clubs. At least that's his record. He might not fare so well at a LIverpool or Man Utd, where he'd have less control and would have to manage bigger names and bigger egos. Brian Clough, another rescuer, failed spectacularly when he joined Leeds. My older brother, who only has a passing interest in football, keeps telling me that we're just a stepping stone for him, but that's only based on the usual trajectory of a successful manager. My feeling is that there are horses for courses, and he's in the right place with us. He’s our Ferguson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Said it before but I hope that when he eventually leaves us, it's because he's retiring due to extreme old age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Yorkie said: He doesn't have this... Poorly worded. I meant to say with owners who will back him as much as they possibly can (FFP being the obvious limit). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Ah, here we go again.. When is this shit going to stop? "Oh something unlucky happened to Newcastle, they will fall apart and fans will get Howe sacked!!" Edited December 4, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: Ah, here we go again.. When is this shit going to stop? "Oh something unlucky happened to Newcastle, they will fall apart and fans will get Howe sacked!!" Please don’t sully this thread with the words of one of the worst managers in our history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Should stick to what he knows best, taking bungs and being a washed up PFM. Felt sorry for him that he was a state when he returned to management but he can just fuck right off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Anyone got the quotes? I could use a laugh. What a week to talk about us turning on him! Edited December 4, 2023 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) F365 were at it with their managerial sack list that Howe is doing well but super rich owners will apparently turn on him fast if results go a bit wrong and the likes of mourinho become available...yeah you totally poach Dan ashworth from Brighton to sack off a manager who has built a proper team for fucking mourinho that makes sense... Edited December 4, 2023 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tiresias said: F365 were at it with their managerial sack list that Howe is doing well but super rich owners will apparently turn on him fast if results go a bit wrong and the likes of mourinho become available...yeah you totally poach Dan ashworth from Brighton to sack off a manager who has built a proper team for fucking mourinho that makes sense... Mourinho would be the complete opposite to what they have claimed they are trying to achieve. He doesn’t develop young players and wants a ready-made team that usually costs a fortune which would be a problem with FFP. He doesn’t do sustainable growth and it would all fall apart very quickly when he falls out with players and the hierarchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 16 hours ago, Yorkie said: He doesn't have this... He does like. It will just be released more gradually than in previous cases, and our ascent will be all the sweeter for it. Anything non-FFP related like training ground, stadium, etc. there is no doubt the club will be backed to the hilt, and anything FFP-related it's just a matter of time before we can compete (financially) with the very biggest in the business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Oh yeah, I feel a lot in the media are desperate for our owners to be impatient short termist new money idiots, as that's more fun to write about, critique and less likely to do anything. We're doing everything sensibly and it's showing up some of the normal loved big clubs as being somewhat stupid in their managerial and transfer policies. What annoys me more mind is when I see the occaisional one of our fans getting all expectant that top 4 is now the normal, it will be but we vastly overachieved last season lol. We may do it again, doubt it with these injuries, the whole project seemed planned to get there for the 24/25 season not straight away, this season always going to be fucking tough because of it! There's definitely a lot of pundits who think Howe not getting top 4 will lead to pressure from owners and fans alike and i just can't see it. Edited December 4, 2023 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Sounds like Allardyce has invented a hypothetical situation in his own cavernous head. He's then used his own hypothetical situation to have a(nother) pop at the impatient Newcastle fans that chased him out of town. So he's invented a complete fictional situation and the Chronicle have published it. Talk about an axe to grind, him and Souness just can't accept they were utter pigshit and rightfully sacked, they've both held this grudge and trot it out as often as they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 18 hours ago, Whitley mag said: Needs to improve his FA Cup 3rd round record that’s all I’m saying. Especially this year considering who were playing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Gary Neville is always saying suggesting things might get hard for Howe when we sign ‘top’ players. He doesn’t seem to understand that everyone we sign needs to buy-in to Howe’s philosophy. If we don’t think they can. We won’t sign them. We will sign Mo Salah’s not Paul Pogba’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Howe? ???? Edited December 4, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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