Shearergol Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, ShootShoot said: Eddies problem Well this feels constructive. Do you think another manager would solve it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: Maybe Alonso would be cool with managing the last nine games with the assurance that he gets to coach the season after next. Only half the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 now I have totally belabored that point, but I just can’t help myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Good response, But using Elon Musk as an example of good management is just absolutely insane. It wasn’t an example of good management. It was an example of some normal bloke/girl bringing something to the attention of a genius, that they themselves hadn’t considered. And it turned out to be a great idea by all accounts. But us normal folk know nothing apparently ? Edited March 31 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootShoot Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Well this feels constructive. Do you think another manager would solve it? Eddies problem Eddie needs to solve it sorry if its confusing for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Bizarre opinion - but looking at the league table today - I still think Eddie is doing and has done a great job this season. It's been a freak season with injuries and the Tonali situation, plus amping up our fixtures with CL while still having a squad fit for the championship in many ways. Not sure many other managers would have done much more, yes we fucked up in some games and should have done better, but Howes doing a sterling job with some of the options he has to pick from. Just my thoughts but I'd defiantly be giving him one more season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 7 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Did the tactics injure Pope? Of course there’s been some innocuous injuries like that.. same as Jacob Murphy.. but the hamstring, thigh and acl injuries I’d bet my house on being a result of them being run into the ground over 2 seasons. “When muscles become fatigued, they may not be able to support the joints as effectively, increasing the risk of injury. Additionally, fatigue can alter biomechanics and movement patterns, placing greater stress on certain areas of the body, which can predispose athletes to injuries like hamstring strains or ACL tears.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I was going to smack myself in the face with a hammer, but I've just read the last 5 pages of this thread, so I don't have that urge anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 54 said: I was going to smack myself in the face with a hammer, but I've just read the last 5 pages of this thread, so I don't have that urge anymore. Well, if you change your mind and you need a hand… Edited March 31 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: Of course there’s been some innocuous injuries like that.. same as Jacob Murphy.. but the hamstring, thigh and acl injuries I’d bet my house on being a result of them being run into the ground over 2 seasons. “When muscles become fatigued, they may not be able to support the joints as effectively, increasing the risk of injury. Additionally, fatigue can alter biomechanics and movement patterns, placing greater stress on certain areas of the body, which can predispose athletes to injuries like hamstring strains or ACL tears.” Personally I think Howe turned lots of shit players into decent looking players with this tactic. When we can buy better players we probably won’t use this tactic. No other manager copes any better with this squad imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Holmesy said: It wasn’t an example of good management. It was an example of some normal bloke/girl bringing something to the attention of a genius, that they themselves hadn’t considered. And it turned out to be a great idea by all account. But us normal folk know nothing apparently ? Ahhh gotcha. fair enough. Misunderstood you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 5 minutes ago, Holmesy said: It wasn’t an example of good management. It was an example of some normal bloke/girl bringing something to the attention of a genius, that they themselves hadn’t considered. And it turned out to be a great idea by all accounts. But us normal folk know nothing apparently ? I don't think that example is the slam dunk you think it is holmes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 1 minute ago, LiquidAK said: I don't think that example is the slam dunk you think it is holmes. I was thinking the same. But I get what he’s trying to say now, which was a very reasonable thing. Edited March 31 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 It's simple for me really. Do we have the 4th best squad in the league? 6th? 8th? Emphasis on the word squad there too. We are about where we should be given what we have, where we've been and what we've had to deal with. When Howe had one game a week and more or less a full squad he could drill the tactics into the players and made some of the less talented ones look a lot better than they are. Obviously we've had many weeks this year where we've probably trained once or twice in between games and it shows. Then remove key pieces of the team such as Pope, Joelinton, a fully fit striker for many weeks, so on and so forth, I think 6th-8th is about right for this group of players. If you look at Spurs in their current guise, it'll be interesting to see how they perform next season if they make the Champions League. Similar high intensity (to us last season) and they'll play something ridiculous like 41 games all of this season. We've already played that many. He's more than earned the right to have another go at things next season. Obviously there are some things I hope he has learned from but he's got his way of playing and would rather the players get adjusted to that rather than changing for their sake. He's been that way since the day he arrived, we took some hidings (Leicester, Man City and Spurs away in his first season spring to mind) but he never changed his philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I was thinking the same. But I get what he’s trying to say now, which was a very reasonable thing. Disagree tbh a better parallel would be the normal bloke/girl questioning every decision the rocket engineer made and not having the humility to appreciate that they might be working with more information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 5 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: I don't think that example is the slam dunk you think it is holmes. I’m too pissed to know either way. I’ll revisit in the morning. ? This is the video of your pal Elon though: https://youtube.com/shorts/WY73exaVpyw?feature=shared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 That's my YT recommendations fucked for a few weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 minute ago, LiquidAK said: Disagree tbh a better parallel would be the normal bloke/girl questioning every decision the rocket engineer made and not having the humility to appreciate that they might be working with more information. that's also a very reasonable point. But we all have blindspots. Whether it's that or not with Eddie is not so clear. But fuck, it feels like we lost 4-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 27 minutes ago, KaKa said: I could pull up stills of Man City getting ran through similar to this earlier this season when Rodri was out. What is this supposed to prove exactly? What Man City getting ran through last season (?) looks like Us getting ran through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, LiquidAK said: That's my YT recommendations fucked for a few weeks "if you like this video, then you should watch 'they are committing genocide against the whites in South Africa'" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwantcurlyhair2 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 xG graph = Nick Pope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: You are missing the point too, as nobody is saying that you should still be as good when your better players are out. Where he is tactically limited is where we set up with having a goalkeeper that sweeps up in Pope, meaning we can get away with a higher line, yet when Pope is out and replaced with a keeper that isn’t comfortable sweeping up, we still play with the high line and are done with long balls constantly. Could it be that it’s not that everyone else is missing the point…? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, Iwantcurlyhair2 said: xG graph = Nick Pope Definitely mattered, but it can be both the system and the missing players, which is my point. We shouldn’t be Nick Pope away from conceding chances like Burnley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I’d sack Howe if we were Man City and conceding the goals we have after assembling the best squad the league has ever seen. We’re not though, and our good players have been injured too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I’d sack Howe if we were Man City and conceding the goals we have after assembling the best squad the league has ever seen. We’re not though, and our good players have been injured too much. Injuries you say?! Fuck me, why didn’t anyone mention them before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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