Eddie Howe

[Weezertron]

36 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Despite everything that has been said in this thread you're still talking about being confused about why we were mint last season and now we are not?

 

Someone even posted a graph that showed at the start of this season we were on track with last season prior to losing key personnel.

 

And still you can't get your head around things? 

 

It's as simple as were not good anymore so the manager isn't learning?!

 

This is somewhat terrifying man.

 

 

 

I’m massively pro Howe. But there’s been times this season, such as Gordon playing 30 minutes after looking absolutely fucked on multiple occasions, where he should have played even a kid to manage potential injuries. 
 

And I don’t think he rotated as well as he could have whenever he had the options to. Howe would admit himself he likes to keep the same team if he can, which is viable without all the extra comps. 
 

I’m sure we can attribute atleast some of the personnel losses/reinjuries down to squad management. However a chunk were just unlucky or standard for any season.
 

He’s the right manager for the job IMO. But I’d like him to improve on that, just like I’d like any player to improve a specific skill. 
 

having said that, 98% of managers are stubborn. So I can’t hold it against him. 
 

 

[cubaricho]

1 minute ago, Weezertron said:

where he should have played even a kid to manage potential injuries. 

 

That's just not how Premier League football works man.  

[Norseman]

Unfortunately most of our youngsters wouldn’t cut it even in league 2.

 

One would expect this to improve over time, but it will take a few years i reckon.

[SteV]

May have missed this somewhere further back, but did he get booked for simply running down the touchline a bit when the winner went in?

 

 

[SUPERTOON]

11 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

 

That's just not how Premier League football works man.  

Agreed, although there were games such as spurs and Everton away where the game was completely gone and we still didn’t see changes. Just get some of the players off the pitch for a bit at that point imo.

[80]

2 minutes ago, SteV said:

May have missed this somewhere further back, but did he get booked for simply running down the touchline a bit when the winner went in?

 

 

As far as anyone can tell, yes. Ludicrous.

[cubaricho]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Agreed, although there were games such as spurs and Everton away where the game was completely gone and we still didn’t see changes. Just get some of the players off the pitch for a bit at that point imo.

 

Like how the game was completely gone on Saturday?

 

And just took a look at the scoreline for both of those matches and Everton didn't score their first goal until almost the 80th minute. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, cubaricho said:

 

Like how the game was completely gone on Saturday?

 

And just took a look at the scoreline for both of those matches and Everton didn't score their first goal until almost the 80th minute. 

We physically weren’t getting back into those games though, aye in fairness you are right about the Everton one. Could also mention the games we were winning comfortably against Sheff Utd and Palace earlier in the season. All the main players stayed on longer than necessary. Only a small criticism but one in hindsight I think he may have done things differently.

[KaKa]

25 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

I’m massively pro Howe. But there’s been times this season, such as Gordon playing 30 minutes after looking absolutely fucked on multiple occasions, where he should have played even a kid to manage potential injuries. 
 

And I don’t think he rotated as well as he could have whenever he had the options to. Howe would admit himself he likes to keep the same team if he can, which is viable without all the extra comps. 
 

I’m sure we can attribute atleast some of the personnel losses/reinjuries down to squad management. However a chunk were just unlucky or standard for any season.
 

He’s the right manager for the job IMO. But I’d like him to improve on that, just like I’d like any player to improve a specific skill. 
 

having said that, 98% of managers are stubborn. So I can’t hold it against him. 
 

 

 

Yes, completely fair.

 

The unfortunate thing is the way people talk about his decisions as if he's a complete idiot, and as though most other managers don't do the same sort of things.

 

There's for sure stuff for him to learn from and improve on. Judging from his character and commitment, I am quite confident he will do so.

 

In the current heat of battle in the middle of the season though, I have accepted that his preference is not to try and rock the boat too much, because he clearly believes we will be worse off for it, and at the end of the day he has the most information to be able to make that call.

[SteV]

21 minutes ago, 80 said:

As far as anyone can tell, yes. Ludicrous.

Doesn’t appear that Wilder got booked for doing similar but also booting one of the spare balls into orbit?

 

It’s either a rule or it’s not.

[Jagten]

15 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

You've gone from pulling random one off images from games, which can be done for any team to now switching the narrative.

 

So from these graphs you tell me what that sudden switch in our xg against midway through this season coincided with, because up until then we were on track with what we were doing last season, which was comparable to the almighty Man City you worship, despite clueless Eddie playing the evil Dan Burn.

 

I wonder if it had anything to do with Joelinton and Pope no longer being available like I mentioned in the first place.

 

 

 

Obviously defensive structure and xG performance is related? I think finding that level of defensive dysfunction is rare. 

 

You’re attributing views to me that are not mine. I like Howe and I am mostly neutral on Burn. Do I think Nick Pope and Joelinton should be / are the difference between a great defense and what we have witnessed now? No. Do I think they matter? Yes. 

 

 

Edited April 1 by Jagten

[Matt1892]

I looked at December as being a congested month and January as difficult fixtures, but from February onwards we had a favourable run in for the rest of the season with only a few difficult games.

 

I think it is fair to say our performances have been mixed since then, with a great result at the end of March against Villa which was unexpected.

 

What I want to see from Howe between now and the end of the season is some consistency in both performances and results, as even with players out we should still be beating the majority of the team below. It isn’t as if they can play their best eleven every week either.
 

Newcastle 4-4 Luton ?

Forest 2-3 Newcastle ✅

Newcastle 2-2 Bournemouth ? 

Arsenal 4-1 Newcastle ❌ 

Newcastle 3-0 Wolves ✅ 

Chelsea 3-2 Newcastle ❌ 

Newcastle 4-3 West Ham ✅

 

Newcastle - Everton
Fulham - Newcastle

Newcastle - Spurs

Crystal Palace - Newcastle

Newcastle - Sheffield United

Burnley - Newcastle

Newcastle - Brighton

Brentford - Newcastle

 

We also have the rearranged game away to Man Utd to drop in.

 

[PauloGeordio]

Our gaffa! 

[gbandit]

Wanted him to come in and train while injured? No surprises there, pathetic management 

[Thomson Mouse]

22 hours ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

It's crazy that this thread has become nearly as grim as it was in early 2022 when we were looking good for relegation.

 

It’s absolutely shameful tbh and there’ll be a lot worse out there from our lot.

 

 

[Cf]

23 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Wanted him to come in and train while injured? No surprises there, pathetic management 

 

Our injury crisis suddenly makes perfect sense.

[Elliottman]

1400 pages of the beautiful bloke. 1400 more please. 

[Newcastle Fan]

We really need to evaluate our options for the summer, we can't have too high hopes that he will turn things around next year.

[The Prophet]

Don't think he did too much wrong today. Wastefulness in front of goal and an individual error has ultimately cost us.

 

 

Edited April 2 by The Prophet

[The Butcher]

Sean Longstaff 

[Aiston]

Horrific against the sides near the bottom this year.

[1892er]

I get some people have some doubts but he deserves no criticism today. Dummett fucked us and poor finishing. We controlled the game for the majority of it.

[Amir_9]

4 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said:

We really need to evaluate our options for the summer, we can't have too high hopes that he will turn things around next year.

 

Tonight wasn't his fault though. Pickford has a good game and a player that wouldn't even get a sniff of the pitch wouldn't have played if it weren't for the injury situation cost us 3 points.

 

I will criticise him when its due criticising but don't think tonight was on him.

 

 

Edited April 2 by Amir_9

[LiquidAK]

1 minute ago, Newcastle Fan said:

We really need to evaluate our options for the summer, we can't have too high hopes that he will turn things around next year.

Oh do me a fucking favour. Sick to bastarding death with this fucking shit.

 

He can't put the fucking ball in the net for them, and barring a brain-dead moment from a player who shouldn't be anywhere near the team without the ridiculous numbers of dead players we'd have had a solid defensive display.

 

Anyone blaming that on the manager is doing so with an agenda. 

 

 

[timeEd32]

Can't wait to see the negative slant this one gets. Some stats before the drama starts:

 

58% possession

17 shots to 10

6 shots on target to 3

8 blocked shots to 1

7 corners to 3

2.38 open play xG to 0.35

 

Not included in the above - a game killing goal ruled out for offside