Lush Vlad Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 hours ago, timnufc22 said: It's symptomatic of the way football has gone; everyone is obsessed with passing out from the back regardless if the players in question aren't great on the ball under the pressure and regardless how dangerous it is to lose the ball in such area's. It's like managers have been brainwashed into thinking its the right and only way of playing - despite literally giving up massive chances to the opponent as a consequence. I get the idea, I get how it can work and I get 'sticking to your principles'/plan. But surely at times common sense and nous comes into play aswell. When under pressure and in dangerous area's we should have been hitting the ball down the channels to use Isak's pace and get up the pitch. Keep their defenders honest. There are basics of football that wont ever be taken away, they're just being ignored at the moment. Defenders have it so easy these days (off the ball anyway) because everything is played in front of them. Does my head in and I hope this cycle comes to an end and teams start playing with more tactical flexibility and common sense. Yep. The few times we managed to go in behind last night. We looked dangerous. I know they didn't play as high as City at SJP, Spurs or Villa twice. But they did almost leave a wide 3 on 3 a lot of the time. We have seen the damage we can do against better teams when that is the tactic that we pursue and when it is on. Yet last night, we insisted on trying to get limited players to work our way round a press, on a tight, zippy pitch in an old school ground. All against a team full of confidence, who seemed far more athletic than the team we had out. All against the backdrop of a lively, pumped up home crowd. I don't think Howe gets out-coached much or despite me moaning about other things he does. I rarely think he is the most to blame because of how we set up and the players we have had unavailable have been a fair excuse most of the time. But I thought he got it so wrong last night, it is untrue and out of character for him. He'll be more fucked off than anyone and he'll learn from that and we'll be better because of it. I think/hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, Pilko said: He's right about us not shooting like, it was driving me bananas last night. Every time there was an opening our lads took another touch or hesitated and the chance was gone. It was weird. Isak was guilty of it twice, Barnes, I think Gordon too, Longstaff when he decided to flop instead. I think Bruno, as well. But him shooting on his left foot would have been ugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 This loyalty crap to players who played well in the last game has to stop if there inferior options. Tino and hall should be starting as they're our future stars not Krafth and Murphy. The same with Dubravka get karius in a sweeper keeper until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, andycap said: This loyalty crap to players who played well in the last game has to stop if there inferior options. Tino and hall should be starting as they're our future stars not Krafth and Murphy. The same with Dubravka get karius in a sweeper keeper until the end of the season. I'm assuming Livramento was injured to not even make it off the bench. Hall I agree. Should be getting minutes given who else is available. Karius I think would disrupt what little cohesion we have at the back which given we are at the final games is too much of a gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Nah he suites us more than Dubravka, it would mean our defence could push further up the pitch knowing he's there to sweep up the through balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Been trying to think of the match last season that last night reminded me of and I've finally got it - Sheff Wed (A) in the Cup. Desperately disappointing performance where virtually nothing worked. Few fringe players getting a run out (who normally wouldn't) but they all simultaneously let themselves down with such a shit performance it stunk the place out. Sloppy in possession, lack of movement, mistakes under little pressure and no fizz to anything at all. Shape looked bad and clearly wasn't working, couldn't get a toe-hold in the game and never looked like troubling them. Horrible performances the pair of them and deserving of exactly what we got - nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dokko said: Bollocks has he said that. If he has, he's lost it. Completely cracked. Give over man, you're the one that cracks and says stuff like this at the first sign of pressure Edited April 25 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: Give over man, you're the one that cracks and says stuff like this at the first sign of pressure I'm not being paid £100k a week to manage a football team. I'm saying whatever I say on a football forum in front of a couple of dozen virgns & weirdos. It's not the same. Ps: unfortunately a lot of what I said end of 23 and start of 24 was correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dokko said: I'm not being paid £100k a week to manage a football team. I'm saying whatever I say on a football forum in front of a couple of dozen virgns & weirdos. It's not the same. Ps: unfortunately a lot of what I said end of 23 and start of 24 was correct. most of what you said in 21-22 was absolutely wrong, and often just plain nuts. So don't pat yourself on the back too much. Revisionist historians here. Edited April 26 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geordie_once_removed Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 18 hours ago, Tsunami said: We couldn’t compete with their central midfield of Wharton (who admittedly looks to have loads of potential) and Will Hughes, seriously, Will Hughes, who out pressed us, out fought us and generally did what he wanted. That pretty much sums it up for me, if you can’t nullify and bypass Will Hughes you’ve already lost. It's my fault. I saw their line up with Ayew and Hughes in it and remarked to a friend that we had it in the bag as these are two of the worst players to have over 50 Premier League appearances. Naturally they then both go on to have very good games and play key roles in both of Palace's goals... I still stand by my assessment of Hughes and Ayew mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said: It's my fault. I saw their line up with Ayew and Hughes in it and remarked to a friend that we had it in the bag as these are two of the worst players to have over 50 Premier League appearances. Naturally they then both go on to have very good games and play key roles in both of Palace's goals... I still stand by my assessment of Hughes and Ayew mind. Will Hughes is one of those players who is generally average but always turns it on when playing against us....there's a fair few over the years Ryan Taylor springs to mind instantly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 hours ago, Dokko said: I'm not being paid £100k a week to manage a football team. I'm saying whatever I say on a football forum in front of a couple of dozen virgns & weirdos. It's not the same. Ps: unfortunately a lot of what I said end of 23 and start of 24 was correct. I know it's not the same, that's my point. Howe hasn't cracked, but you seem to be on the precipice of it whenever we have a blip, bad game, bad run of form and start talking like it's the end. Your opinion like, no problem with that, just saying I don't think it's Howe that loses it. I don't think anything you've said has been correct or provable either way yet. Not looking for a spat, I just disagree with you. Mainly because I've seen enough to believe Howe is the real deal and undoing that belief would take a lot lot more than what I've seen this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 hours ago, Dokko said: I'm not being paid £100k a week to manage a football team. I'm saying whatever I say on a football forum in front of a couple of dozen virgns & weirdos. It's not the same. Ps: unfortunately a lot of what I said end of 23 and start of 24 was correct. It's Warhammer virgins, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Think the Liverpool offer has unsettled him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 8 hours ago, RS said: Think the Liverpool offer has unsettled him. Which Liverpool offer? I haven’t seen owt about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Good stuff couldn't have got much worse like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Needs to sign somebody technical and creative in the summer if he’s got the keys to the summer warchest. As great as Gordon is we need a Cole Palmer type on the right who can unlock the door. Big summer for Eddie needs to show he has the vision to take us to next level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Best manager in 100 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Didn't get out of neutral with a broken clutch and still managed that. My gaffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Until now, we haven't had a manager since Keegan where I'd be almost expecting us to score 2+ in most games. We might get 100 in all competitions this season, which would average at 2 a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Fixed (most) things at half time. Easy three points in the end for Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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