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13 minutes ago, Heron said:

Teams change and evolve, generally.

 

Whilst we didn't execute it perfectly, it was absolutely the plan to hit these on the counter and it absolutely worked.

We got the win, and the plan may have worked. I’m not arguing it didn’t, but there were still poor performances in that match, and I suspect poor fitness levels.

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6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Agreed on the first point. 
 

Kelly did great for the opening goal. But he doesn’t look particularly impressive on the ball. 

 

I thought Kelly looked very tidy on the ball. Considering he's a CB by trade.

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I have been wondering, what is so wrong with an "outdated" football model which would allow the likes of a Ferguson, a Wenger, or even a Klopp to run the club, instead of running everything by a committee.

 

If we have to think outside the box then, just maybe, we have found ours. We didn't play well in spells, but found a way. It's what all the best ones do.

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We look like Man Utd under Ten Hag, where they dig out points from games they were outplayed in and don’t appear to be playing with any tactics.

 

7 out of a possible 9 and the next round of the cup is an excellent tally for this point in the season, you get the feeling we will be on the end of a pasting if we don’t sort out our tactics soon.

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7 points and through in the cup is definitely more than a bit fortuitous based on how we've played so far but I do think Eddie deserves a bit of luck, given what a poor job those in charge of recruitment did to help him going into the new season.

 

Obviously the performances haven't been great but worth remembering that we started fairly slow the year we came 4th too. Won the first game but then went almost two months before we won another league game.

 

There were some fairly abject performances in there too, Brighton away we were poor and lucky to get a point, needed a last minute wonder goal to get a draw at Wolves too. Then at home we drew with Bournemouth and Palace, only managing one goal from a penalty over those two games.

 

There were a couple of good performances against Liverpool and City in there too but it was a fairly slow start, all in all.

 

I think the style of play we want to utilize just might need some ramping up to, frankly. A number of our players are visibly off the pace starting the season and I just don't know if we can go out there and give it the full press mentalists approach that we look our best at.

 

Think winning today will be huge for the mood around the place. Get Tonali bedded in and starting every game, get Bruno, Isak and Gordon all firing on all cylinders and get Schar back and there's plenty of reason to believe we'll kick into high gear sooner rather than later.

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1 hour ago, STM said:

 

He lost the ball 3 times in a row, which was shocking. On the other hand, he did what he always does and offers pace, professionalism and energy.

none of these are footballing traits, it's the bare minimum

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33 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

We look like Man Utd under Ten Hag, where they dig out points from games they were outplayed in and don’t appear to be playing with any tactics.


We won the game tactically today. It’s just difficult to watch because we didn’t have much of the ball. The team was setup intentionally to do what it did. We got three points, tactically.

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1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

I thought Kelly looked very tidy on the ball. Considering he's a CB by trade.

Aye but not for a fullback. 

 

34 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

We look like Man Utd under Ten Hag, where they dig out points from games they were outplayed in and don’t appear to be playing with any tactics.

 

7 out of a possible 9 and the next round of the cup is an excellent tally for this point in the season, you get the feeling we will be on the end of a pasting if we don’t sort out our tactics soon.

Agreed. 

 

1 hour ago, Abacus said:

I have been wondering, what is so wrong with an "outdated" football model which would allow the likes of a Ferguson, a Wenger, or even a Klopp to run the club, instead of running everything by a committee.

 

If we have to think outside the box then, just maybe, we have found ours. We didn't play well in spells, but found a way. It's what all the best ones do.

Complexity and breadth of the sport has grown. Howe shouldn’t be  managing our FFP situation.  

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20 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said:

Well done to him for making the right subs and organizing us well but we really need to put a lot of work in the international break, we won't always get this luck.

We limited them to poor quality chances (1.3 XG). The only lucky thing about the game was their goal.

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1 hour ago, Zero said:


If that’s Howe’s intention (preventing injuries) then we can only hope to have a few more lucky wins for the first half of the season. Try to sneak 1-2 goals in first half and then defend deeply in 2nd half seems to be his new plan

 

If we successfully keep our starting eleven healthy for the whole season, we might be able to gain a lot of points after Mar, thus end up more points than last season

 

I don’t know whether it’s called “lesson learnt”, but we have to trust Howe. You can also say we have no choice lol

 

That plan is a recipe for disaster. That’s ultimately the  Pardew and Bruce plan.  Nick it with a bit of magic. Defend deep and hope teamwork and desire gets us through.  We need to get back to fucking pressing.  

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1 hour ago, Abacus said:

I have been wondering, what is so wrong with an "outdated" football model which would allow the likes of a Ferguson, a Wenger, or even a Klopp to run the club, instead of running everything by a committee.

 

If we have to think outside the box then, just maybe, we have found ours. We didn't play well in spells, but found a way. It's what all the best ones do.

Same reason we don't have size 18 models with pointy bras, times change I reckon

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

That plan is a recipe for disaster. That’s ultimately the  Pardew and Bruce plan.  Nick it with a bit of magic. Defend deep and hope teamwork and desire gets us through.  We need to get back to fucking pressing.  

 

We played that way as a very specific response to the way Spurs play, it worked. It’s not Bruce or Pardew, that’s an extremely narrow-minded view devoid of context. Some people seem incapable of watching us play without the ball (intentionally) and appreciating the plan. Football isn’t solely about having the most possession, I would have thought that was obvious to anyone who’s watched a bit.

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1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

 

We played that way as a very specific response to the way Spurs play, it worked. It’s not Bruce or Pardew, that’s an extremely narrow-minded view devoid of context. Some people seem incapable of watching us play without the ball (intentionally) and appreciating the plan. Football isn’t solely about having the most possession, I would have thought that was obvious to anyone who’s watched a bit.

Great post. 

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