Stifler Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 13 minutes ago, Heron said: Teams change and evolve, generally. Whilst we didn't execute it perfectly, it was absolutely the plan to hit these on the counter and it absolutely worked. We got the win, and the plan may have worked. I’m not arguing it didn’t, but there were still poor performances in that match, and I suspect poor fitness levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Can only work with what we have but Bruno and Tonali as a 2 with Almiron or big Joe ahead might help link with Barnes, Gordon and Isak and help the press Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Agreed on the first point. Kelly did great for the opening goal. But he doesn’t look particularly impressive on the ball. I thought Kelly looked very tidy on the ball. Considering he's a CB by trade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 If there is a rift in the camp and the body language experts are all correct. Then the players are consummate professionals. As they all looked like they’d die for the manager and the club today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Hall looked shaky again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 I have been wondering, what is so wrong with an "outdated" football model which would allow the likes of a Ferguson, a Wenger, or even a Klopp to run the club, instead of running everything by a committee. If we have to think outside the box then, just maybe, we have found ours. We didn't play well in spells, but found a way. It's what all the best ones do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 54 minutes ago, Yorkie said: No he wasn't. Lost it a couple of times early on but then got a good assist and put in a great shift defensively. Usual canny option off the bench for us. This man knows ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 We look like Man Utd under Ten Hag, where they dig out points from games they were outplayed in and don’t appear to be playing with any tactics. 7 out of a possible 9 and the next round of the cup is an excellent tally for this point in the season, you get the feeling we will be on the end of a pasting if we don’t sort out our tactics soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 7 points and through in the cup is definitely more than a bit fortuitous based on how we've played so far but I do think Eddie deserves a bit of luck, given what a poor job those in charge of recruitment did to help him going into the new season. Obviously the performances haven't been great but worth remembering that we started fairly slow the year we came 4th too. Won the first game but then went almost two months before we won another league game. There were some fairly abject performances in there too, Brighton away we were poor and lucky to get a point, needed a last minute wonder goal to get a draw at Wolves too. Then at home we drew with Bournemouth and Palace, only managing one goal from a penalty over those two games. There were a couple of good performances against Liverpool and City in there too but it was a fairly slow start, all in all. I think the style of play we want to utilize just might need some ramping up to, frankly. A number of our players are visibly off the pace starting the season and I just don't know if we can go out there and give it the full press mentalists approach that we look our best at. Think winning today will be huge for the mood around the place. Get Tonali bedded in and starting every game, get Bruno, Isak and Gordon all firing on all cylinders and get Schar back and there's plenty of reason to believe we'll kick into high gear sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 We look thr exact opposite of last season. Compact and defensively solid, but disjointed and wateful going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Well done to him for making the right subs and organizing us well but we really need to put a lot of work in the international break, we won't always get this luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 hour ago, STM said: He lost the ball 3 times in a row, which was shocking. On the other hand, he did what he always does and offers pace, professionalism and energy. none of these are footballing traits, it's the bare minimum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 33 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: We look like Man Utd under Ten Hag, where they dig out points from games they were outplayed in and don’t appear to be playing with any tactics. We won the game tactically today. It’s just difficult to watch because we didn’t have much of the ball. The team was setup intentionally to do what it did. We got three points, tactically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 hour ago, TRon said: I thought Kelly looked very tidy on the ball. Considering he's a CB by trade. Aye but not for a fullback. 34 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: We look like Man Utd under Ten Hag, where they dig out points from games they were outplayed in and don’t appear to be playing with any tactics. 7 out of a possible 9 and the next round of the cup is an excellent tally for this point in the season, you get the feeling we will be on the end of a pasting if we don’t sort out our tactics soon. Agreed. 1 hour ago, Abacus said: I have been wondering, what is so wrong with an "outdated" football model which would allow the likes of a Ferguson, a Wenger, or even a Klopp to run the club, instead of running everything by a committee. If we have to think outside the box then, just maybe, we have found ours. We didn't play well in spells, but found a way. It's what all the best ones do. Complexity and breadth of the sport has grown. Howe shouldn’t be managing our FFP situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Did he have an interview after the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 20 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: Well done to him for making the right subs and organizing us well but we really need to put a lot of work in the international break, we won't always get this luck. We limited them to poor quality chances (1.3 XG). The only lucky thing about the game was their goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Zero said: If that’s Howe’s intention (preventing injuries) then we can only hope to have a few more lucky wins for the first half of the season. Try to sneak 1-2 goals in first half and then defend deeply in 2nd half seems to be his new plan If we successfully keep our starting eleven healthy for the whole season, we might be able to gain a lot of points after Mar, thus end up more points than last season I don’t know whether it’s called “lesson learnt”, but we have to trust Howe. You can also say we have no choice lol That plan is a recipe for disaster. That’s ultimately the Pardew and Bruce plan. Nick it with a bit of magic. Defend deep and hope teamwork and desire gets us through. We need to get back to fucking pressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Oh you're back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Abacus said: I have been wondering, what is so wrong with an "outdated" football model which would allow the likes of a Ferguson, a Wenger, or even a Klopp to run the club, instead of running everything by a committee. If we have to think outside the box then, just maybe, we have found ours. We didn't play well in spells, but found a way. It's what all the best ones do. Same reason we don't have size 18 models with pointy bras, times change I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Did he have an interview after the game? https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13207911/eddie-howe-i-hope-not-playing-well-is-a-good-sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 hour ago, nufc123 said: Bournemouth fans say hes decent on the ball. For a Bournemouth player aye. A Bournemouth CB. We have Trippier, Schar, Botman, Hall at his best. He’s nowhere near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: That plan is a recipe for disaster. That’s ultimately the Pardew and Bruce plan. Nick it with a bit of magic. Defend deep and hope teamwork and desire gets us through. We need to get back to fucking pressing. We played that way as a very specific response to the way Spurs play, it worked. It’s not Bruce or Pardew, that’s an extremely narrow-minded view devoid of context. Some people seem incapable of watching us play without the ball (intentionally) and appreciating the plan. Football isn’t solely about having the most possession, I would have thought that was obvious to anyone who’s watched a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Elliottman said: https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13207911/eddie-howe-i-hope-not-playing-well-is-a-good-sign Speaks so much sense. No bullshit. No pulling wool over our eyes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 Have we forgotten what Eddie Howe has done since he got here or something? Man Utd under Ten Haag FFS, get real man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted September 1, 2024 Share Posted September 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: We played that way as a very specific response to the way Spurs play, it worked. It’s not Bruce or Pardew, that’s an extremely narrow-minded view devoid of context. Some people seem incapable of watching us play without the ball (intentionally) and appreciating the plan. Football isn’t solely about having the most possession, I would have thought that was obvious to anyone who’s watched a bit. Great post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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