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A lot of words will be spilled in this thread but the main difference in that game is that their best player is genuinely elite and ours 1) aren’t as good as him and 2) were bad today.

 

Eddie needs a good look in the mirror but so do a lot of our players.

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Tonali never takes set pieces which is baffling surely you use him and his knowledge of set pieces to benefit your team. 

It's like having beckham  playing for you and letting schar take them. 

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Just have zero faith that he's going to turn this around. There's no straws to clutch to or green shoots I can see like I could in Jan 2022.

 

We are worse than last season and much worse than we were in 2022-23. Zero identifiable patterns of play with the ball and we're almost in November.

 

 

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Just now, Joelinton7 said:

I’d like to say he’s taken us as far as he can but I fear it’s more this is as far as we can go as a club because we just won’t be allowed to smash that glass ceiling. 

We could if we recruit in better ways. Our technical ability is awful. Fuck spending 70 million on a centre half, sort out midfield and wings, need a creative type in that midfield and probably move to 2 in middle holiding and 1 in front, we get cut open too much to play that 433

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Too reactive and doesn't try be proactive, ever.

 

Should have changed something before we conceded, Chelsea give us a good 10-15 minute warning and we suffered for it.

 

Too late on subs all the time and never really changes anything tactically no matter what.

 

Really poor from him today.

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Looks like the cycle might have come to its end. There is always a stage where you just kmow players aren't as motivated or hungry as they were before. And unfortunately, managers will take the chop for it. As seems the case with Eddie and the players. Boardroom issues aside, dressing room.harmony and morale has just bursted and won't recover anymore until Eddie goes. Shame that but that seems the obvious outcome right now.

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I think he'll be gone this season and it'll be a mistake. We're not bad, we're just looking like an average mid table Premier League team, but we've massively regressed to that from one of the best sides in the league (due to Howe).

 

PSR had fucked us, as it was meant to, and replacing Howe in the recruitment department was necessary, but he needs a chance with a proper scouting network behind him.

 

 

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Still think if we had put the chances away in the last 3 games, we'd not be talking about Howe.

 

Everton - big money Gordon misses a pen, 1pt instead of 3.

Brighton - big money Gordon and Isak miss several great chances, 0 points instead of 3.

Chelsea - Pope let's a crap one in, and big money Isak misses one Xisco would have finished, 0 points instead of 1.

 

Don't think we are playing nearly as bad as some are making out, Chelsea sell a couple of hotels and spend £300m, we can only buy Osula. Still got the likes of Burn, Miggy and Murphy involved cos there's not really any choice.

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2 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Our best players aren’t performing and our other players aren’t good enough. 
 

All the talk of systems and such, it’s not a deck that’s stacked with talent. Smacks of shuffling deckchairs. 

We've been through this when we were shite. Players playing like shit is a tactics issue. Not too long ago that people were calling Joelinton hopeless.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Nepharite said:

Who replaces him before January?

 

Mancini

 

(or go get Mourinho out of Turkey)

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2 minutes ago, andycap said:

Tonali never takes set pieces which is baffling surely you use him and his knowledge of set pieces to benefit your team. 

It's like having beckham  playing for you and letting schar take them. 

Yep totally agree, maybe Tindall in his ear constantly isn’t a good thing 

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Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

I think he'll be gone this season and it'll be a mistake. We're not bad, we're just looking like an average mid table Premier League team, but we've massively regressed to that from one of the best sides in the league (due to Howe).

 

PSR had fucked us, as it was meant to, and replacing Howe in the recruitment department was necessary, but he needs a chance with a proper scouting network behind him.

 

 

 

We were trying to pay almost £70m for Marc Guehi and bidding £50m for Anthony Elanga in the summer, like.

 

And the signings made summer 2023 haven't particularly improved us either. We're consistently substituting the two big signings from that window, rightly or wrongly.

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The thing about long term management is that inevitably, the performances suffer. You constantly have to find new and erotic ways of spicing things up in the dressing room 

 

 

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Just now, bobbydazzla said:

The thing is about long term management is that inevitably, the performances suffer. You constantly have to find new and erotic ways of spicing things up in the dressing room 

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Just now, Karjala said:

Still think if we had put the chances away in the last 3 games, we'd not be talking about Howe.

 

While that's true, the last 3 games have balanced out the half dozen or so earlier in the season where the opposition could have scored four or five each and we somehow pinched a result.

 

We are pretty much exactly where we deserve to be on the balance of the performances this season. 

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Just now, Ronson333 said:

Yep totally agree, maybe Tindall in his ear constantly isn’t a good thing 

Do other assistants have that much imput during a game as Tindall does. I’ve never really noticed what others are doing.

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