Eddie Howe

[Jewel]

2 hours ago, Elliottman said:

I do think people need to wrap their head around the fact that bad seasons can happen. It’s sport. 

This season hasn't happened yet. More than enough games left to salvage something from it. 

 

I would hope Eddie and the boys can see what the problems are, and try to rectify them, whilst there is still time to do so, instead of shrugging their shoulders and saying, "bad seasons can happen. Its sport".

 

If he can't do that, then he quite rightly deserves to be critiqued. I don't think that's a controversial opinion.

 

A quiet slide into mediocrity shouldn't be accepted just like that. Not by us. And not by Eddie.

 

All that said, I'm still confident he can turn it around. He needs to, let's see if he does.

[deejeck]

12 minutes ago, 80 said:

Gordon and Botman.

It's odd, but for all I loved Isak when he was here, there was something a bit aloof about him which was a feeling I didn't get with the majority of the rest of the squad. Just personal opinion, but getting those vibes with Gordon now.

[Jewel]

Gordon wants to rejoin his mate at Liverpool, so he can recreate the amazing chemistry that they supposedly had.

[80]

6 minutes ago, deejeck said:

It's odd, but for all I loved Isak when he was here, there was something a bit aloof about him which was a feeling I didn't get with the majority of the rest of the squad. Just personal opinion, but getting those vibes with Gordon now.

Gordon's not been the same since the Southgate Euros/attempted sale summer, there's no getting away from it.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2025 by 80

[Kid Icarus]

The weird thing with Gordon is that if he was moved on, it would likely be to a club fighting for the league title, but at the same time I reckon we'd be able to get a better player. 

 

Whatever player he is or can be, he's definitely not proving it here at the moment. We got it in 23/24 and since then he's only done it when he fancies it.

[The Prophet]

2 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

I couldn’t see him turning it around after Brentford away. Oh how wrong I was. 
 

I’ve referenced it a few times on here that I was far too quick to judge. I won’t be doubting him again in a hurry. 

I believe he will turn it around. He has done so many times. But our away form is really concerning, for sure. 

 

Wasn't a dig at anyone as such. More a reminder we've been here before and he's more than capable of turning it around.

[Heron]

12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The weird thing with Gordon is that if he was moved on, it would likely be to a club fighting for the league title, but at the same time I reckon we'd be able to get a better player. 

 

Whatever player he is or can be, he's definitely not proving it here at the moment. We got it in 23/24 and since then he's only done it when he fancies it.

This is as good as Gordon can get until he ups his game so he's either a) deluded or b) will be lucky if he gets that sort of move.

 

I'm with you. I think for the money you could sell Gordon for you could probably replace him and then some. There's more hype around Gordon than he warrants.

 

Maybe that's just me and my bias though, as I question his application.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2025 by Heron

[Lucky]

1 hour ago, Mattoon said:

 

It's pretty obvious that after the nuclear levels of injuries we suffered in our last Champions League season that Howe has us conserving energy instead of turning up the tempo when we have the lead, our incessant pressing in the previous campaign has devastating effects on the squad. 

Can you not see the flaw in your argument?

 

If we can only play to the intensity we need to for that system to work every other game and then the rest of the time playing at 50-60% just to avoid injuries - then surely the system is flawed?

[Erikse]

6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The weird thing with Gordon is that if he was moved on, it would likely be to a club fighting for the league title, but at the same time I reckon we'd be able to get a better player. 

 

Whatever player he is or can be, he's definitely not proving it here at the moment. We got it in 23/24 and since then he's only done it when he fancies it.

 

Would be surprised to see someone like Liverpool or Chelsea be in for him now. They will be aiming for players like Semenyo.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Would be surprised to see someone like Liverpool or Chelsea be in for him now. They will be aiming for players like Semenyo.

 

Chelsea just signed Garnacho TBF.

[Erikse]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Chelsea just signed Garnacho TBF.

 

Atleast he's 21 and has potensial. He also suits their playstyle more than Gordon imo.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2025 by Erikse

[Dr Venkman]

Probably the worst I’ve seen us play since Eddie took over.

 

We’ll be reet, he’ll sort it out.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2025 by Dr Venkman

[Andy84]

His post match interview was positive imo. He knows that was unacceptable and I’m sure he’ll fix it. We’ve got a good group of lads 

[Sibierski]

People saying today was a one off and not been that bad before under Howe, are forgetting the home game against West Ham just last season. A side that were in woeful form, manager about to get sacked, yet won easily, even more so as Howe made changes in second half that saw us lose all shape.

 

 

In recent times, today is more common then not.

[Yorkie]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

People saying today was a one off and not been that bad before under Howe, are forgetting the home game against West Ham just last season. A side that were in woeful form, manager about to get sacked, yet won easily, even more so as Howe made changes in second half that saw us lose all shape.

 

 

In recent times, today is more common then not.

 

Two similar games in however many it is since that West Ham game is not "more common than not"

[Andy84]

3 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

People saying today was a one off and not been that bad before under Howe, are forgetting the home game against West Ham just last season. A side that were in woeful form, manager about to get sacked, yet won easily, even more so as Howe made changes in second half that saw us lose all shape.

 

 

In recent times, today is more common then not.

We then won a trophy and qualified for the champions league 

[Sibierski]

26 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Would be surprised to see someone like Liverpool or Chelsea be in for him now. They will be aiming for players like Semenyo.

Gordon has shown for England when he’s got better players around him, he looks better too. There’s no getting away that a left side of Joelinton / Burn is proper smelly stuff for ball progression. Gordon today was bad, but overall if he had better around him he’d be better longer term. 
 

Also replacing Gordon won’t be a slam dunk. We just spent on average £50m for average to good prem players from domestic rivals. So selling Gordon for £75m, we’d probably end up dropping £60m on someone like Kevin Schade.

[Sibierski]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Two similar games in however many it is since that West Ham game is not "more common than not"

It is when people are saying it’s unlike Howe and he will learn. 

[Kid Icarus]

8 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

People saying today was a one off and not been that bad before under Howe, are forgetting the home game against West Ham just last season. A side that were in woeful form, manager about to get sacked, yet won easily, even more so as Howe made changes in second half that saw us lose all shape.

 

 

In recent times, today is more common then not.

Remind me how that season turned out again 

[Mike]

Looking forward to the season where we get Brighton, Bournemouth and West Ham in like a week.

[Yorkie]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

It is when people are saying it’s unlike Howe and he will learn. 

 

You're discrediting your entire argument by referencing an awful performance that wasn't repeated again until a year later. It literally provides evidence to the contrary, considering we had an absolutely amazing season in the end.

 

We were absolutely terrible today but the jury is out on whether it indicates we're in for a bad season or if it was just a defeat.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Where I see Howe's big challenge is that the house that Howe built has peaked and he needs to rebuild. Someone mentioned earlier that it is a damn sight harder to get into this team than it is to get out, and that's true.

 

Howe has a natural comfort blanket of Pope, Schar, Burn, Bruno, Big Joe, Tonali, Gordon and of these there is a strong argument that only Tonali is going to improve, the rest will see a natural decline at different rates - it has already started in some.

 

Trips basically took himself out of the team last year, Murphy played himself into it but is always an enigma. The only reason we changed up front is because it was forced upon us. You can also look at the way Pope came back in last season, the shirt should have been Dubs and he did nothing to warrant being benched.

 

Of course these are the guys who have got us Champs League twice and won a cup, there is no rewriting history and down playing their achievements but other than Joe and Murph they are all Howe buys and it must be damn hard to now look at them and decide how and when they will be replaced. Its the challenge he has to start getting right though.

 

Tino, Hall, Miley, Thiaw, Botman, Ramsey are the ones in the squad who should be today/tomorrows men (alongside Bruno and Tonali form the list above) (Ignoring Wolt as that position is his already) and should be the core when fit. The wings are up for grabs but Barnes needs to be given a go on the left, Murph has the shirt until Elanga starts showing more. I personally think Ramsdale suits the team more than Pope.

 

OF course there is still a massive role for the likes of Burn, but we can't ignore the succession.

 

I don't know how Howe did with this when Bournemouth got to the PL, and I don't envy the task one bit. Knowing how to dismantle and rebuild is however what separates the very very good managers and the elite, and also why most managers build one great team but not a dynasty

[Whitley mag]

Next 2 feel big and fans needs to see a reaction. In many ways I’d be happier if we beat Brentford if it’s a choice, the league performances have been dreadful and the CL feels hollow if where floundering above the relegation zone.

[HayDen Traces]

We'll go on a run of 8 wins at some stage this season and look invincible.

[sempuki]

23 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

His post match interview was positive imo. He knows that was unacceptable and I’m sure he’ll fix it. We’ve got a good group of lads 

Sounded gutted. Hope we take it out on Bilbao.