duo Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 6 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Game obviously flipped with Pope’s error but I’ll be honest the performance and incoherency in our play second half was really shocking. Losing faith a bit now, we look far too soft. Come on - was a decent performance 1st half and it took a mistake from Pope to gift them a game. Could see the heads drop when it went it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Just now, Pilko said: Everton are 10/1 to win from behind at the weekend btw. Already got on for the next chapter of the weekly away game protocol. Does it ever get boring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 6 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: oh FFS, they've been asked by some of you clowns since the 23-24. Pope I give you. But FFS do you want him to run Woltemade into the ground before Wissa is back? there's obvious logic in the decision. It's a stopgap to protect our one fit striker. .I understand resting Woltemade but Gordons not the answer, thats been proven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 This place was more tolerable when Bruce was stinking up the dugout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Wonder if the “leadership group” have enough about them to tell a few home truths? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 He's accountable to the away form like, definitely. I thought he had us set up fine enough, but there is obviously a fundamental issue in the heart of the whole set-up which means we cannot do a fucking thing on the road. I don't know how you identify it or how you fix it, but hopefully he can and will. Thought the first set of second half subs were bizarre but we looked much better after the next raft of changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 First criticism of him, but he's not resting players by bringing them on in the 65th minute where we're chasing a lost lead with no momentum. No lessons learnt from the West Ham game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Just now, johnny36 said: .I understand resting Woltemade but Gordons not the answer, thats been proven Then who else? We have 2 other strikers, both of which are Injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBartoon Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Got it all wrong on the road again imo. Seriously needs to come up with some different, and quickly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 minute ago, Andy84 said: Does it ever get boring? I don't understand what you're referring to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Just now, johnny36 said: .I understand resting Woltemade but Gordons not the answer, thats been proven Who is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Just now, johnny36 said: .I understand resting Woltemade but Gordons not the answer, thats been proven we honestly don't have an answer right now. All the options are fuking horrible. But keeping Woltemade healthy is vital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 minute ago, RobS said: For everyone whinging - exactly what was Howe meant to do? Play Woltemade tonight, in a game we would of liked to win, but didn't have to win or run NickW into the ground and he be shite against Everton at the weekend, and lose in the Prem away again? He has no other strikers fit, who else is he going to play up front? Barnes? Elanga? Sean Neave? Tonight was a gamble based on a squad teetering on the brink of loads of injuries, hes trying to learn from the last campaign and not play the same 11 into the ground every week. Yes. This is the Champions League, we have seen what not playing him offers us and according to Howe Wissa is nearly fit in anyway. Any fucking team in the Champions League if battling with a decision to play their start forward in the Champions League, or at the weekend against Everton picks in the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Please come up with a different game plan in away games. Score > sit back and absorb pressure that we cannot do well > concede > concede again > wait until 60th minute for subs > lose. Pope bares the brunt of the blame of course for yet another fuck up but we seem to do the same thing all the time away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Yes. This is the Champions League, we have seen what not playing him offers us and according to Howe Wissa is nearly fit in anyway. Any fucking team in the Champions League if battling with a decision to play their start forward in the Champions League, or at the weekend against Everton picks in the Champions League. Guardiola benched Haaland. It cost him as well. But unlike some of you guys, these coaches are considering a 50 game season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Yes. This is the Champions League, we have seen what not playing him offers us and according to Howe Wissa is nearly fit in anyway. Any fucking team in the Champions League if battling with a decision to play their start forward in the Champions League, or at the weekend against Everton picks in the Champions League. But its a league, and were doing well in the champions league, and are desperate for points in the Prem? And everyone would whing to high hell if we put Gordon, of all people, up front against Everton away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Yes. This is the Champions League, we have seen what not playing him offers us and according to Howe Wissa is nearly fit in anyway. Any fucking team in the Champions League if battling with a decision to play their start forward in the Champions League, or at the weekend against Everton picks in the Champions League. Mate, you need to chill before you have a heart attack. You sound like you're heart rate is at 200bpm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, RobS said: But its a league, and were doing well in the champions league, and are desperate for points in the Prem? And everyone would whing to high hell if we put Gordon, of all people, up front against Everton away? absolutely they would be complaining. Never thought I'd say this, but I am just tired of the football section. It's the sport equivalent of reading the Ukraine or Gaza thread. Edited November 25, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Got it spot on first half, 20 seconds after half-time Pope loses his mind and we concede a second while utterly rattled. Got it wrong second half chasing the game as we never looked like getting back into it but I don't know what I'd have done much differently tbh. That he had to resort to Miley at RB says it all as far as options go. Not laying this one at his door. Bet I know a few people who will mind, they do want him to succeed of course, promise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 4 minutes ago, Andy84 said: Does it ever get boring? Printing money tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 I know he has a a kid but Neave would have been better upfront. At least he knows the role and a continental game is less physical than the premier League. Burn staying on and Schar going off when chasing the game was also the wrong decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 6 minutes ago, duo said: Come on - was a decent performance 1st half and it took a mistake from Pope to gift them a game. Could see the heads drop when it went it. Nah it’s emblematic of a constant theme of fragile performances away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Hard to say how he fixes the away form as we are clearly a different team mentally, but the first step for me is to ditch the five at the back idea. Line up and approach the games as we do at home until it works. Having half of the outfield positions occupied by defenders just naturally encourages us to sit back and try to protect. Then when it inevitably goes wrong, it's hard to get momentum again. Our centre halves are all good defenders. We don't need three of them on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 We just look so horrendously slow and uninspiring when we play through the middle. It's infuriating. Can't wait to see the back of Gordon. His permanent place in the lineup despite providing next to nowt is casting a long shadow over the whole team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 7 minutes ago, johnny36 said: .I understand resting Woltemade but Gordons not the answer, thats been proven once again, there is no damn answer right now. The one answer we have is not fucking burn our one fit striker out. The logic is very easy to see. We were afforded a fuck up in the CL because we put ourselves in a decent position. The league is going to need enough relatively rested players who aren't filler. We've fucked up too much in the league at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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