Lush Vlad Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 Howe’s rotation and subs have been much better of late. But it did feel like we could have got Wissa and Ramsey/Willock on earlier. It does feel like I’m using hindsight here because of the result. But we have a decent squad now and games galore. We need to use it and not have certain players getting run into the ground every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 42 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Not sure what the plan is here, but if he starts next game its quite baffling really. Well they’ll have all the bio data which helps gauge readiness/ability to play twice in three days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 17 minutes ago, Yorkie said: We're obviously far from perfect this season and, presently, we are the worst of his teams at least since the start of 22/23. But I'll offer a glass-half-full take and say I think there's a lot to be optimistic about when you look at our games up to now. It's objectively a very good thing that we're so capable of finding the lead anywhere. If we can learn how to capitalise on a lead (looking at our new number 9 here, and hopefully Elanga continuing to improve), then we'll be onto a very good thing. I'll say till I'm blue in the face that the biggest reason (not the only) for these late equalisers is the lack of goals, not the lack of defensive solidity. The 2 most recent games we’ve chucked have seen us score 2 goals, how many goals do we need to be in front so we don’t drop our arses? The top teams see games out simple as. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 Genuinely think his refusal to sub tired players is now costing us points on a regular basis. His lack of intervention in the last 20 minutes was embarrassing, he just stood there and watched us give up the lead yet again, drop points yet again, didn't change formation, refused to sub off players who were obviously wrecked until it was clearly too late. He watched it all happen yet again. I love the bloke but he's got to take some blame at some point. It's his team 100% and if there's a constant issue then it's his job to fix it, that's why he's there. This issue has been there for months now and he's not even close to fixing it. He can't play the games himself but he's the one at the top of the tree and he needs to do a 180 on the mentality of his squad. Repeating the same mistakes game after game is going to get embarrassing, if it's not already. Thought Howe was shocking tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 9 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Congrats on winning the Melt of the Night Award. You don’t have the authority to award that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 If Murphy’s shot is three inches further inside the post, it goes in, we win, a sub has scored, and everyone says Eddie is great. Them’s the margins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 14 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: We were just as bad in 23-24, but with little hope of improving much until January of 24 because of fatigue. We were absolutely dog shit until December last season, and that was with six fewer games. Even with our relatively good start in points, we looked awful apart from the Forest comeback. lack of goals hasn’t been a problem since before City. Not blowing one or two out of the water before they had a chance to concede has been a problem. And conceding 2 as much as we have had been a massive issue. It's really strange. Even when we were struggling in the early games this season we still looked solid defensively. Lately we just look weak and ready to cave when teams crank up the pressure. Which we invite onto ourselves half the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Well they’ll have all the bio data which helps gauge readiness/ability to play twice in three days. Yeah but he has played almost every game since the season started months ago. Edited December 10, 2025 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Howe’s rotation and subs have been much better of late. But it did feel like we could have got Wissa and Ramsey/Willock on earlier. It does feel like I’m using hindsight here because of the result. But we have a decent squad now and games galore. We need to use it and not have certain players getting run into the ground every week. He seems to be very cautious in the last 10 mins in terms of making changes. That coupled with our inability to finish teams off heaps pressure on us and we seem to lose our heads when it’s close. My hope is that Wissa will help finish teams off but we need to stop being a soft touch at the end of games. Edited December 10, 2025 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 The other side is allowed to be good, they were. We played really well for a lot of that game, and got some bad luck with their first goal and hitting the inside of post and out twice. Clear positives trends in the away form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 4 minutes ago, SteV said: If Murphy’s shot is three inches further inside the post, it goes in, we win, a sub has scored, and everyone says Eddie is great. Them’s the margins. Eddie is great! But with faults Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesmcc222 Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, midds said: Genuinely think his refusal to sub tired players is now costing us points on a regular basis. His lack of intervention in the last 20 minutes was embarrassing, he just stood there and watched us give up the lead yet again, drop points yet again, didn't change formation, refused to sub off players who were obviously wrecked until it was clearly too late. He watched it all happen yet again. I love the bloke but he's got to take some blame at some point. It's his team 100% and if there's a constant issue then it's his job to fix it, that's why he's there. This issue has been there for months now and he's not even close to fixing it. He can't play the games himself but he's the one at the top of the tree and he needs to do a 180 on the mentality of his squad. Repeating the same mistakes game after game is going to get embarrassing, if it's not already. Thought Howe was shocking tonight Respectfully I think that’s a bit over the top. It’s frustrating but we just drew in Germany. That’s crazy based on 5 years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: The 2 most recent games we’ve chucked have seen us score 2 goals, how many goals do we need to be in front so we don’t drop our arses? The top teams see games out simple as. We were only one goal in front weren't we. I'm saying once we crack the code of routinely getting to two in front, this peril of late equalisers won't even exist. I'm not saying we shouldn't do better at seeing games out when we haven't extended the lead. I just believe the solution to it is in scoring more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 5 minutes ago, midds said: Genuinely think his refusal to sub tired players is now costing us points on a regular basis. His lack of intervention in the last 20 minutes was embarrassing, he just stood there and watched us give up the lead yet again, drop points yet again, didn't change formation, refused to sub off players who were obviously wrecked until it was clearly too late. He watched it all happen yet again. I love the bloke but he's got to take some blame at some point. It's his team 100% and if there's a constant issue then it's his job to fix it, that's why he's there. This issue has been there for months now and he's not even close to fixing it. He can't play the games himself but he's the one at the top of the tree and he needs to do a 180 on the mentality of his squad. Repeating the same mistakes game after game is going to get embarrassing, if it's not already. Thought Howe was shocking tonight We were crying out for changes, I don’t see why Wissa, Elanga couldn’t have come on, their pace would’ve pushed them back. He’s get this frustrating tendency to sit back, invite teams on and then watch as we concede, it’s very odd and extremely frustrating. Is it that he doesn’t trust players? 🤷🏽♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 6 minutes ago, midds said: Genuinely think his refusal to sub tired players is now costing us points on a regular basis. His lack of intervention in the last 20 minutes was embarrassing, he just stood there and watched us give up the lead yet again, drop points yet again, didn't change formation, refused to sub off players who were obviously wrecked until it was clearly too late. He watched it all happen yet again. I love the bloke but he's got to take some blame at some point. It's his team 100% and if there's a constant issue then it's his job to fix it, that's why he's there. This issue has been there for months now and he's not even close to fixing it. He can't play the games himself but he's the one at the top of the tree and he needs to do a 180 on the mentality of his squad. Repeating the same mistakes game after game is going to get embarrassing, if it's not already. Thought Howe was shocking tonight I don’t think Eddie was shocking tonight but he definitely needed to bring fresh runner’s on around 70 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 This isn’t luck. And it isn’t going to stop without action. Very concerning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Danh1 said: This isn’t luck. And it isn’t going to stop without action. Very concerning. Almost 40% of our goal against being let in the last 10% of playing time aint no coincident. Edited December 10, 2025 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 14 minutes ago, Danh1 said: This isn’t luck. And it isn’t going to stop without action. Very concerning. And we gave Burnley a chance to equalise at the death too. Imagine where we'd be if we could see games out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 16 minutes ago, Danh1 said: This isn’t luck. And it isn’t going to stop without action. Very concerning. It's not concerning it's unacceptable and needs to be sorted. It's clearly a systematic issue which needs addressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It's not concerning it's unacceptable and needs to be sorted. It's clearly a systematic issue which needs addressing. Feels needlessly dramatic to call it unacceptable. It’s undesirable and frustrating but I can accept that there seems to be a bit of a frailty about it in the team at the moment. Hopefully if they see a few leads out we can move on from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 44 minutes ago, SteV said: If Murphy’s shot is three inches further inside the post, it goes in, we win, a sub has scored, and everyone says Eddie is great. Them’s the margins. Miley scored - Eddie sub Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 23 minutes ago, Danh1 said: This isn’t luck. And it isn’t going to stop without action. Very concerning. The Brentford and West Ham games were already lost by that point tbf. The most galling from that list are the Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 Just now, Theregulars said: Feels needlessly dramatic to call it unacceptable. It’s undesirable and frustrating but I can accept that there seems to be a bit of a frailty about it in the team at the moment. Hopefully if they see a few leads out we can move on from it. Pissing away points at the last minute is unacceptable. I mean once or twice you accept it, it happens but with the alarming regularity we've been doing it isn't acceptable imo. Obviously it's a few factors, lack of concentration is pretty high, I think we have to make subs earlier and use our squad. Also what happened to our street smarts? We'd have pope going down every game 18 months ago so we can organise that's gone now. Fwiw Bayer played well but they are nothing special imo. It's a decent point but nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 4 minutes ago, duo said: Miley scored - Eddie sub Yes, excellent point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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