Eddie Howe

[dcmk]

Why put the poll anonymous?  

[The Prophet]

3 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Why put the poll anonymous?  

 

I had my pitchfork ready.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

We’ve just got to enjoy the good times lads. We won the game against Liverpool that mattered.

[AJ9]

13 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

From around Man United away, you could at least start to see a plan.

What are you seeing that I’m not? Not being cheeky or anything, genuinely interested.

[Kilcline]

We've all got our takes, caveats, gripes and mitigations with the gaffer so essentially the entire poll is a good old Twitter or LinkedIn "Other (Comment below)" 

[Matt1892]

He should have the rest of this season without any threat to his role but if we finish outside of the European spots then I wouldn’t be against the club looking elsewhere, especially if the remaining 14 league games follow the previous 24 games, which have been painful outside of the odd game here and there.

 

This isn’t even a transitional season, it is a season where he purchased players that either don’t fit in our system or that he thought had potential and it hasn’t materialised, so it could be another summer rebuild if he stays.
 

Hopefully he can put a run together to turn it around, but I’m not sure he will this time.

 

 

[Whitley mag]

1 hour ago, Cristov said:

Like I said, im content with Eddie just now but a poll on potential Eddie replacements would be interesting, but up to someone else to come up with the names! 

 

Because im stumped who could do a better job in the circumstances. 

 

 

Jimmy Nail.

[Scoreboard82]

8 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Jimmy Nail.

I'm not sure he would be the man to fill Eddie's crocodile shoes ☺

[The Prophet]

16 minutes ago, AJ9 said:

What are you seeing that I’m not? Not being cheeky or anything, genuinely interested.

 

Be as cheeky as you like, I could be talking shite.

 

We're following a fairly standard template by the looks of it. Out of possession, drop into a midblock, then a variation of 2-3-5 or 3-2-5 when we have the ball, depending on the positioning of the six (Bruno or Tonali).

 

We've been much better at retaining possession, the problem has been that we're so slow to move the ball up the pitch, we allow the opposition to drop in (Man United and Wolves) so we don't create the intended overload or overwhelm the opposition defence. We've been far more purposeful in the last couple, but against Liverpool, combined with fatigue, that came at the cost of being too easy to counter attack.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 1 by The Prophet

[Rod]

21 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Be as cheeky as you like, I could be talking shite.

 

We're following a fairly standard template by the looks of it. Out of possession, drop into a midblock, then a variation of 2-3-5 or 3-2-5 when we have the ball, depending on the positioning of the six (Bruno or Tonali).

 

We've been much better at retaining possession, the problem has been that we're so slow to move the ball up the pitch, we allow the opposition to drop in (Man United and Wolves) so we don't create the intended overload or overwhelm the opposition defence. We've been far more purposeful in the last couple, but against Liverpool, combined with fatigue, that came at the cost of being too easy to counter attack.

 

 

 

 

 

You are not far off with that analysis.

[Rod]

31 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Be as cheeky as you like, I could be talking shite.

 

We're following a fairly standard template by the looks of it. Out of possession, drop into a midblock, then a variation of 2-3-5 or 3-2-5 when we have the ball, depending on the positioning of the six (Bruno or Tonali).

 

We've been much better at retaining possession, the problem has been that we're so slow to move the ball up the pitch, we allow the opposition to drop in (Man United and Wolves) so we don't create the intended overload or overwhelm the opposition defence. We've been far more purposeful in the last couple, but against Liverpool, combined with fatigue, that came at the cost of being too easy to counter attack.

 

 

 

 

 

I have a friend that does this. He hasn't played a game of football in his life but insists on giving me a total run down on EVERY player and EVERY moment that happened on the pitch. He has no idea what he is talking about but to not come across as rude I simply nod. The wife's stares leaves me in no doubt that I am about to die if I dare to raise an objection.

Today we all had lunch and I had to inform my friend that Scott Parker was not the manager of Fulham.

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Rod said:

I have a friend that does this. He hasn't played a game of football in his life but insists on giving me a total run down on EVERY player and EVERY moment that happened on the pitch. He has no idea what he is talking about but to not come across as rude I simply nod. The wife's stares leaves me in no doubt that I am about to die if I dare to raise an objection.

Today we all had lunch and I had to inform my friend that Scott Parker was not the manager of Fulham.

 

 

Class, thanks Rod.

 

If I'm watching alone, I like to try and spot what we're trying to do, but I try to dial back the inner nerd when I'm in company.

[AJ9]

59 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Be as cheeky as you like, I could be talking shite.

 

We're following a fairly standard template by the looks of it. Out of possession, drop into a midblock, then a variation of 2-3-5 or 3-2-5 when we have the ball, depending on the positioning of the six (Bruno or Tonali).

 

We've been much better at retaining possession, the problem has been that we're so slow to move the ball up the pitch, we allow the opposition to drop in (Man United and Wolves) so we don't create the intended overload or overwhelm the opposition defence. We've been far more purposeful in the last couple, but against Liverpool, combined with fatigue, that came at the cost of being too easy to counter attack.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks that’s really helpful 👍

[RobsonsWonderland]

I must admit I don't watch, read or listen after a big loss but did Howe say anything about dropping both forwards for the game?

 

Were they carrying knocks or has he give up on them being the players he needs for the pressing style we used to have? 

[Rod]

2 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

I must admit I don't watch, read or listen after a big loss but did Howe say anything about dropping both forwards for the game?

 

Were they carrying knocks or has he give up on them being the players he needs for the pressing style we used to have? 

I'm not sure what his thinking was ....... but the tactics were fantastic for the first half. Back to our forwards, Wissa should definitely have started. As for Woltemade, I'd rather have a traffic cone.

[duo]

1 hour ago, dcmk said:

Why put the poll anonymous?  

I'll be honest I put 'on the fence'.  Feels like we have gone backwards this season.  We seem out of ideas - all we seem good at is pressing but you can only do that for so long.  After 30mins yesterday the players looked shattered and that's when Liverpool got into the game.  We did nothing to change it until 70th min and the game was gone by that point.   I know as fans we are conditioned to lose at Anfield but Burnley managed a draw, Leeds managed a draw, Sunderland managed a draw.  Liverpool were there to be got at yet we started the game with no strikers - I still don't get it.  

[Yorkie]

Still the man for me. This season has been a mess but I put significant weight into the mitigating factors. 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, dcmk said:

Why put the poll anonymous?  

I put ‘Happy with him but I have some gripes’ if it needs to be open

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, Rod said:

I'm not sure what his thinking was ....... but the tactics were fantastic for the first half. Back to our forwards, Wissa should definitely have started. As for Woltemade, I'd rather have a traffic cone.

Yeah, I thought he got it pretty spot-on - it was a disastrous two-minute collective switch-off which caused it to unravel

 

Second half was a poor showing for me

[Rod]

1 minute ago, duo said:

I'll be honest I put 'on the fence'.  Feels like we have gone backwards this season.  We seem out of ideas - all we seem good at is pressing but you can only do that for so long.  After 30mins yesterday the players looked shattered and that's when Liverpool got into the game.  We did nothing to change it until 70th min and the game was gone by that point.   I know as fans we are conditioned to lose at Anfield but Burnley managed a draw, Leeds managed a draw, Sunderland managed a draw.  Liverpool were there to be got at yet we started the game with no strikers - I still don't get it.  

I'm still puzzled at how we played them off the park for most of the first half then totally capitulated the second half. Nothing of importance had changed for either side. The Kop were in total silence when we were battering them. Eddie was fuming at our defending.

[r0cafella]

I went with on the fence but wouldn't do anything until the end of the season and what I did would depend on what I've posted before. 

 

Obviously contingent on getting someone else who's actually achieved more as well. 

 

 

[HaydnNUFC]

27 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I went with on the fence but wouldn't do anything until the end of the season and what I did would depend on what I've posted before. 

 

Obviously contingent on getting someone else who's actually achieved more as well. 

 

 

 

Nigh on exactly where I'm at.

[J7]

Given the amount of teams likely to be looking for managers at the end of the season, it probably wouldn’t be the best of times to be replacing the manager. Probably end up like last summers search for a number 9.

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Nigh on exactly where I'm at.

It's pretty logical imo, ultimately I support the club despite having a lot of love, admiration and respect for Eddie the club comes first. 

 

No matter what transpires my affection for Eddie won't change and I do hope he can turn it around. 

[Heron]

3 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

I'd argue it was more down to quite a poor away record that season (6 wins from 19, 5 of those coming after we exited Europe) as well as only being able to take 1 point from 2 games against Luton and throwing away a lead to 10 man Liverpool at home. 1 more win and that Man Utd win doesn't matter.

 

 

Whilst I agree that it is undoubtedly a factor, my concerns is more the no real showing of evolution of how we play to be able to deal with 3 games a week better. We signed more of the same of what we had and/or what we didn't need in the summer in Elanga and Ramsey imo. No one we've signed recently, not just in the summer just gone, has allowed us to be able to play in different ways or exert control by being able to keep and pass the ball better. That, plus I don't think the squad management generally has been particularly good over the last 3 years. Players who should've been moved on a season or two ago are still getting regular minutes (Trippier, Willock, Pope and imo Joelinton) and players have been sold a lot more later than they should've been (Wilson & Almiron). 3 of those players mentioned got new contracts when they should've been sold. I think what we're watching this season is a culmination of all of those things.

 

As well as the loss of Isak which has been immense. We've been backed into a corner with that and the jury is out on the two lads we've brought in. But I do think, certainly in Woltemade's case, that no attempt has been made to play to his strengths. He's regularly isolated, no midfielder near him and the wingers with chalk on their boots when he receives the ball. I see him as a Firmino type; will play through the middle in a front 3 but needs attackers and goal getters near him whether that's the two wingers or the two wingers plus a number 10-y type player that Howe's never played. 

 

 

 

I agree and disagree on various elements of this. But will try and remember to reply in full tomorrow as it's nearly midnight