Eddie Howe

[Wolfcastle]

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Could be problems in the dressing room - we know how he feels about Sandro from Meeelan-oh

Wouldn't get on at all with Wolte and Thiaw after what happened to his granny. She only nipped out for a milk stout.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said:

Wouldn't get on at all with Wolte and Thiaw after what happened to his granny. She only nipped out for a milk stout.

Would be funny hearing him calling them ‘the Eric’s’ post-match, mind

[Whitley mag]

Eddie for England, claw back some of the money he wasted in the summer through the compo.

 

Get Fabregas from Como, top players will want to play for him and the football might become watchable again. 
 

The club needs a reboot and I’m afraid if where going to be top dogs by 2030 it’s not happening with Eddie.

 

 

Edited February 4 by Whitley mag

[Heron]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Which is why Howe is receiving criticism - it’s his job to fix that.  So far this season, he hasn’t.  There’s still time yet. 

I suspect he won't this season tbh and I say that as a staunch Howe loyalist. However, I think the situations he and the squad have been put in and the lack of direction from those behind the scenes (and Isak) are the biggest issue and Howe - for me - deserves at least til the end of this calendar year as an absolute bare minimum. Again; just one of the reasons why is that I don't see any clear alternatives who could achieve more than he is, presently.

[Chicken Dancer]

2 minutes ago, Heron said:

We're not a mess game after game though that's the thing. We're decent in one and bad in the next, in general, or actually more accurately in one half and not in the next.

I absolutely adore your optimism, I wish I was like you and you’re by far the most positive fella on this forum. 
 

But we genuinely haven’t been decent in one game and bad the next this season. I can count on one hand when we’ve played well, two at a push. I can’t be arsed listing the entire fixture list but even the wins in the 3pms at home were poor-to-average performances, that’s before we mention the away form (namely at Bournemouth, Leeds, Sunderland and Wolves). The Leeds home game was absolutely incredible and we did win the game, but another game that we were poor in (imo). 
 

I’m talking exclusively about the league here btw. We’ve been pretty good in Europe and it’s a great achievement to qualify for the playoffs with a really favourable tie to come. 

 

I also hope Howe is here 10 years, it would be so daft to pull the trigger. But if this continues into spring and beyond the club will have a decision to make for sure. 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Heron said:

I suspect he won't this season tbh and I say that as a staunch Howe loyalist. However, I think the situations he and the squad have been put in and the lack of direction from those behind the scenes (and Isak) are the biggest issue and Howe - for me - deserves at least til the end of this calendar year as an absolute bare minimum. Again; just one of the reasons why is that I don't see any clear alternatives who could achieve more than he is, presently.

Yes, I agree - personally, I think Howe closes the season out, presents solutions to the board re fixing things, and gets the chance to implement those changes.  Pointless making a change this season unless things really take a nose-five.  Another full season like this one is a no-go for me, though.

[The Prophet]

4 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Eddie for England, claw back some of the money he wasted in the summer through the compo.

 

Get Fabregas from Como, top players will want to play for him and the football might become watchable again. 
 

The club needs a reboot and I’m afraid if where going to be top dogs by 2030 it’s not happening with Eddie.

 

 

 

 

I've not watched much Serie A this season, but presumably Fabregas doesn't have too much experience of managing a two game a week schedule?

[Yorkie]

7 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Eddie for England, claw back some of the money he wasted in the summer through the compo.

 

Get Fabregas from Como, top players will want to play for him and the football might become watchable again. 
 

The club needs a reboot and I’m afraid if where going to be top dogs by 2030 it’s not happening with Eddie.

 

Hell of a pitch that, mind. Remind me who Thiaw snubbed in favour of whom last summer...

[bobbydazzla]

17 minutes ago, Heron said:

We're not a mess game after game though that's the thing. We're decent in one and bad in the next, in general, or actually more accurately in one half and not in the next.

 

How often this season have you thought  “yeah, we bossed that today”. Not even in the score line but in playing with control and confidence. 

I’d say PSV, Benfica, Union, Everton, Spurs (LC), Burnley(a).

 

We conceded 3 against Leeds and beat them with the last kick of the game. 
 

Bournemouth scored 3 and took us to pens and exhausted the squad, in a game we were leading at the death.

 

Liverpool (a) one nowt up then implode. 
 

Wolves are shite and we barely troubled them. We got battered by West Ham, also shite. 

 

Villa schooled us in taking chances and game management. So did City 1st leg. And Barca.

 

PSG were leading within 10 mins and we had to put in the performance of the season to get a draw.

 

Liverpool, Arsenal at home conceding goals at the death.

 

Leverkusen, Marseille, Chelsea, Spurs being ahead and capitulating. 
 

We were woeful tonight. 
 

It’s the same pattern again and again. Thats not bad luck, it’s players, manager and tactics not being up to the task.

 

 

 

Edited February 4 by bobbydazzla

[Heron]

1 minute ago, Chicken Dancer said:

I absolutely adore your optimism, I wish I was like you and you’re by far the most positive fella on this forum. 
 

But we genuinely haven’t been decent in one game and bad the next this season. I can count on one hand when we’ve played well, two at a push. I can’t be arsed listing the entire fixture list but even the wins in the 3pms at home were poor-to-average performances, that’s before we mention the away form (namely at Bournemouth, Leeds, Sunderland and Wolves). The Leeds home game was absolutely incredible and we did win the game, but another game that we were poor in (imo). 
 

I’m talking exclusively about the league here btw. We’ve been pretty good in Europe and it’s a great achievement to qualify for the playoffs with a really favourable tie to come. 

 

I also hope Howe is here 10 years, it would be so daft to pull the trigger. But if this continues into spring and beyond the club will have a decision to make for sure. 

I agree with you on the fixtures listed with the exclusion of Leeds (h) possibly, but I'll let you have it for diplomacy sake

 

Personally, I feel folk take the results as playing badly too often.

 

Liverpool (h)

Arsenal (h)

Barcelona (h)

Chelsea (h)

Villa (h) (go on you can afford me this one)

 

These were all games we played very well in for at least 60minutes. I appreciate football is played over 90 don't get me wrong. Everton (a) blew them away. Villa (a) deserved to win and missed sitters.

 

I think about 17 teams have been inconsistent this season to varying standards (excluding Arsenal, Burnley and Wolves) and obviously two of them are for the wrong reasons. So we're not alone. Thats not to say it's good either. We've missed an opportunity to kick on it seems. So I honestly do get some of the criticisms I just feel that we weren't going into the season as well as I had perhaps perceived at the time and the chickens have come home to roost a bit (is that the phrase?) And it's better to back the lads there than to get twitchy.

[Heron]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

How often this season have you thought  “yeah, we bossed that today”. Not even in the score line but in playing with control and confidence. 

I’d say PSV, Benfica, Union, Everton, Spurs (LC), Burnley(a).

 

We conceded 3 against Leeds and beat them with the last kick of the game. 
 

Bournemouth scored 3 and took us to pens and exhausted an already tired squad, in a game we were leading at the death.

 

Liverpool (a) one nowt up then implode. 
 

Wolves are shite and we barely troubled them. We got battered by West Ham, also shite. 

 

Villa schooled us in taking chances and game management. So did City 1st leg.

 

PSG were leading within 10 mins and he had to put in the performance of the season to get a draw.

 

Liverpool, Arsenal at home conceding goals at the death.

 

Leverkusen, Marseille, Chelsea, Spurs being ahead and capitulating. 
 

We were woeful tonight. 
 

It’s the same pattern again and again. Thats not bad luck, it’s players, manager and tactics not being up to the task.

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but you're brushing over of some of these games as alluded to in my previous post in response to @Chicken Dancer and it's a tad frustrating. "Winning until the last minute" does not discount an otherwise good performance. Performance is judged over 90minutes not just the 1 or 2 minutes we fail in.

 

For some of the fixtures I think we've played well in see above (I cannot be arsed to type them again )

[r0cafella]

Something not discussed but worth considering is Eddie's job is to essentially overachieve like. It may not be fair but that's the expectation isn't it? Ultimately they've come out again and said we expect to be winning things in 5 years that's a lot of pressure alone. 

 

A lot on here will be able to confirm life isn't fair like, at least Eddie has been well compensated for his sub optimum hand. 

[Sir Joel Inton]

9 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

I’d say PSV, Benfica, Union, Everton, Spurs (LC), Burnley(a).

 

Villa (a) and Forest (h).

 

 

Edited February 4 by Sir Joel Inton

[bobbydazzla]

Just now, Heron said:

Sorry, but you're brushing over of some of these games as alluded to in my previous post in response to @Chicken Dancer and it's a tad frustrating. "Winning until the last minute" does not discount an otherwise good performance. Performance is judged over 90minutes not just the 1 or 2 minutes we fail in.

 

For some of the fixtures I think we've played well in see above (I cannot be arsed to type them again )

 

For me, playing well is winning comfortably. And by comfortably I mean with the minimum of fuss.  
 

To me, it doesn’t matter about the performance if you’re consistently getting beat or dropping points from decent positions. Because good performances when you lose, are bad performances. 
 

Maybe a last minute defeat happens from time to time, or you drop points from winning positions from time to time.  That’s football. But for it to happen consistently demonstrates that’s there’s a fundamental problem with the players and management.

 

And you see enough of my posts on here to know I defend Eddie and argue with the doom mongers who write him and our players off all the time.

 

But I’m also a realist not a blind optimist. 

[Rod]

20 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Eddie for England, claw back some of the money he wasted in the summer through the compo.

 

Get Fabregas from Como, top players will want to play for him and the football might become watchable again. 
 

The club needs a reboot and I’m afraid if where going to be top dogs by 2030 it’s not happening with Eddie.

 

 

 

You couldn't be anymore wrong!

[HaydnNUFC]

9 minutes ago, Heron said:

I agree with you on the fixtures listed with the exclusion of Leeds (h) possibly, but I'll let you have it for diplomacy sake

 

Personally, I feel folk take the results as playing badly too often.

 

Liverpool (h)

Arsenal (h)

Barcelona (h)

Chelsea (h)

Villa (h) (go on you can afford me this one)

 

These were all games we played very well in for at least 60minutes. I appreciate football is played over 90 don't get me wrong. Everton (a) blew them away. Villa (a) deserved to win and missed sitters.

 

I think about 17 teams have been inconsistent this season to varying standards (excluding Arsenal, Burnley and Wolves) and obviously two of them are for the wrong reasons. So we're not alone. Thats not to say it's good either. We've missed an opportunity to kick on it seems. So I honestly do get some of the criticisms I just feel that we weren't going into the season as well as I had perhaps perceived at the time and the chickens have come home to roost a bit (is that the phrase?) And it's better to back the lads there than to get twitchy.

Hate to nitpick but I personally really didn’t like the Arsenal at home performance. We shouldn’t have lost it really given Pope’s error leading to one of their goals (can’t remember which one) which would’ve been a good result seeing how well they’re going this season, but in the second half we contributed absolutely nothing offensively bar long balls in Elanga’s direction. I don’t remember us having a shot of any description, I know it’s Arsenal but barely an attack worthy of the name in a half of football at SJP is really poor. Don’t care who we’re playing.

[Chicken Dancer]

4 minutes ago, Heron said:

I agree with you on the fixtures listed with the exclusion of Leeds (h) possibly, but I'll let you have it for diplomacy sake

 

Personally, I feel folk take the results as playing badly too often.

 

Liverpool (h)

Arsenal (h)

Barcelona (h)

Chelsea (h)

Villa (h) (go on you can afford me this one)

 

These were all games we played very well in for at least 60minutes. I appreciate football is played over 90 don't get me wrong. Everton (a) blew them away. Villa (a) deserved to win and missed sitters.

 

I think about 17 teams have been inconsistent this season to varying standards (excluding Arsenal, Burnley and Wolves) and obviously two of them are for the wrong reasons. So we're not alone. Thats not to say it's good either. We've missed an opportunity to kick on it seems. So I honestly do get some of the criticisms I just feel that we weren't going into the season as well as I had perhaps perceived at the time and the chickens have come home to roost a bit (is that the phrase?) And it's better to back the lads there than to get twitchy.

I think we played well for a half against Arsenal then we almost looked like a little team again, whereas in the past (under Howe) we’d really have taken the game to them. We should have had a penalty like for sure.

 

Liverpool we were class, it remains the best performance of the season (including City H Everton A) for me. Which is a worry itself given it was the second game of the season. I’ll let you have the Villa H game though I don’t agree  I thought we were crap, especially second half.

 

What I think we do agree on though is that the amount of good 90 minute performances are few and far between. I’ve said it a few times but that 22/23 team was really something and it’s probably spoiled my enjoyment a tad, watching us now vs that. I totally understand football evolves but that season was my favourite ever (obviously the shiny thing made last season the most memorable). 
 

I’m eternally grateful for the past 4 years - they really have been the best years of my NUFC supporting life by some distance - I’ve had some wonderful times in town, at aways in this country and in Europe. It’s been a blast and I pray that they continue, but I’m not sure how we’d cope being in Europa/Conference next season. We/Howe havent quite figured out how to compete on all fronts, but very few can. 
 

It probably isn’t, but Saturday really feels like a must win. Even just to ease the pressure a bit. 

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

Hate to nitpick but I personally really didn’t like the Arsenal at home performance. We shouldn’t have lost it really given Pope’s error leading to one of their goals (can’t remember which one) which would’ve been a good result seeing how well they’re going this season, but in the second half we contributed absolutely nothing offensively bar long balls in Elanga’s direction. I don’t remember us having a shot of any description, I know it’s Arsenal but barely an attack worthy of the name in a half of football at SJP is really poor. Don’t care who we’re playing.

The Arsenal game annoyed me. We usually bully them up here but not this time. 

 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Something not discussed but worth considering is Eddie's job is to essentially overachieve like. It may not be fair but that's the expectation isn't it? Ultimately they've come out again and said we expect to be winning things in 5 years that's a lot of pressure alone. 

 

A lot on here will be able to confirm life isn't fair like, at least Eddie has been well compensated for his sub optimum hand. 

 

We're battling with clubs that can waste massive amounts of money on the likes of Grealish, Nunez, Havertz, Nkunku, Antony, Gyokores etc and not bat an eyelid. We cant get any wrong. He's expected to outperform again and it's just not at all possible consistently. It's amazing he's done it as much as he has. We're not growing as a club fast enough to expect our team to perform as we do week in, week out. In so many competitions.

 

[TheBrownBottle]

3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Maybe a last minute defeat happens from time to time, or you drop points from winning positions from time to time.  That’s football. But for it to happen consistently demonstrates that’s there’s a fundamental problem with the players and management.

 

 

Agree - something happening with regularity isn’t bad luck. 

[Chicken Dancer]

15 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Burnley(a).

Even this game was twitchy for large chunks. They had us on the ropes a bit, we regained control about 70 minutes onwards, though the festive wine and cheese may have clouded my memory.

[bobbydazzla]

11 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

 

Villa (a) and Forest (h).

 

 

 

I’m on about games where we got the result we wanted. . 
 

Villa away was a drab nowts each. We definitely didn’t boss it. 
 

Forest was a bit meh. And we didn’t seal it till late, but add that if you want. 

 

I missed out Bilbao and City at home in league as good games. I didn’t see City though, was stuck on a train with no signal or WiFi.  

 

 

Edited February 4 by bobbydazzla

[Interpolic]

18 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

How often this season have you thought  “yeah, we bossed that today”. Not even in the score line but in playing with control and confidence. 

I’d say PSV, Benfica, Union, Everton, Spurs (LC), Burnley(a).

 

We conceded 3 against Leeds and beat them with the last kick of the game. 
 

Bournemouth scored 3 and took us to pens and exhausted the squad, in a game we were leading at the death.

 

Liverpool (a) one nowt up then implode. 
 

Wolves are shite and we barely troubled them. We got battered by West Ham, also shite. 

 

Villa schooled us in taking chances and game management. So did City 1st leg. And Barca.

 

PSG were leading within 10 mins and we had to put in the performance of the season to get a draw.

 

Liverpool, Arsenal at home conceding goals at the death.

 

Leverkusen, Marseille, Chelsea, Spurs being ahead and capitulating. 
 

We were woeful tonight. 
 

It’s the same pattern again and again. Thats not bad luck, it’s players, manager and tactics not being up to the task.

 

 

 

 

 

It's a trend across the league tbf, due to loads of factors. I can't think of a team in the league that are particularly impressive most weeks, including those nearest the top of it. 

 

You talk about us labouring against Wolves for example, the team bottom of the league. Villa beat them by 1 goal (their usual screamer) and Arsenal also won by 1 goal (in injury time). Both at home. 

 

 

Edited February 4 by Interpolic

[Wolfcastle]

16 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

I absolutely adore your optimism, I wish I was like you and you’re by far the most positive fella on this forum. 
 

But we genuinely haven’t been decent in one game and bad the next this season. I can count on one hand when we’ve played well, two at a push. I can’t be arsed listing the entire fixture list but even the wins in the 3pms at home were poor-to-average performances, that’s before we mention the away form (namely at Bournemouth, Leeds, Sunderland and Wolves). The Leeds home game was absolutely incredible and we did win the game, but another game that we were poor in (imo). 
 

I’m talking exclusively about the league here btw. We’ve been pretty good in Europe and it’s a great achievement to qualify for the playoffs with a really favourable tie to come. 

 

I also hope Howe is here 10 years, it would be so daft to pull the trigger. But if this continues into spring and beyond the club will have a decision to make for sure. 

That's how I feel about the season. Typically in a midtable season you'd get some exceptionally bad performances and some really good ones and it would be frustratingly inconsistent, maybe it allows a release and chance to vent.  But feel this has been frustratingly consistent in its mediocrity, cant say we've been abysmal in any game or particularly good. Spurs at home is probably as good as its got from a performance and that wouldn't have been much above average if at all in previous seasons.

[Big Geordie]

Perhaps a wee bit in Eddie's defence, I feel that he's been hung out to dry a bit since the summer,  by those who run the club and PIF. It feels a bit stale at the moment.