TRon Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 21 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I just don't agree at all and never will. My take is that we were between a rock and a hard place and yet miraculously got £130million out of Liverpool despite the player pulling every trick he could to drive his value down to £0. The disaster is Wissa's output. If he enters the fold and provides half of what he did for Brentford last season, the season looks completely different. I could understand the reasoning for Wissa, but then I had never really watched him or Woltemade extensively. In fact I had never seen Woltemade play at all, and only paid much attention to Wissa in games against us. Ultimately though, if they had come off, we would have got the credit for great recruitment in the summer, but since they haven't worked out, then we have to judge them accordingly as well. The sale of Isak wasn't the failure, but not getting in replacements in time was. It will be the same if the cartel clubs come in for Tonali and Livramento this summer, and god forbid, Lewis Hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 42 minutes ago, Maggies said: We should do what Dortmund does - set a fixed price with a fixed deadline that gives us time to get a replacement. If it doesn’t happen then we don’t sell. Backing down on Isak 2 days before transfer deadline was the stupidest thing we did. Works fine if the player isn’t making public statements burying the club and expressing his desire to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 11 hours ago, Mountain said: Howe had over 240 million in the Summer to spend how he wished. He did spend it how he wished. No he didn't. If he had then Trafford would be in goals and Etikite or Delapp would be playing up front. He got his man in Elanga though, Forest must be laughing their heads off. Both Ramseys are underwhelming too. Big Nick was about 5th choice but I do have faith in him, if only we knew where to play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 46 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s hard to see it getting any better without a massive overhaul in the summer. Are people expecting to see that ? If you set your work schedule for hours solely during Newcastle games I think we’d win the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 19th in the form table. Only team worse is spurs, and that's the only team we've beat in those 5 games. It's bad. Real bad. It doesn't get much worse than this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, jackyboy said: Eddie looked absolutely gutted yesterday and looked ready to walk away. Our very own FBI Profiler everybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRon said: I could understand the reasoning for Wissa, but then I had never really watched him or Woltemade extensively. In fact I had never seen Woltemade play at all, and only paid much attention to Wissa in games against us. Ultimately though, if they had come off, we would have got the credit for great recruitment in the summer, but since they haven't worked out, then we have to judge them accordingly as well. The sale of Isak wasn't the failure, but not getting in replacements in time was. It will be the same if the cartel clubs come in for Tonali and Livramento this summer, and god forbid, Lewis Hall. I think our overall transfer planning has been shocking over the past two years. This has inevitably been impacted by the chopping and changing of Sporting Directors but I think it could still have been navigated a lot better despite the changing personnel. Being pushed into being reactive in the summer window, with our transfers being led by someone not qualified to handle the convincing and negotiations has fucked us and wasted ten of millions. It can never happen again. Eddie needs to be more flexible, we need to have a higher risk profile and we need both long-term planning & player seduction, and water-tight processes in place so everything can still move if we lose another SD. Hopefully lessons learnt but fuck me, some of them should have been foreseen. Edited March 1 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On the Grid Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 minutes ago, Dokko said: 19th in the form table. Only team worse is spurs, and that's the only team we've beat in those 5 games. It's bad. Real bad. It doesn't get much worse than this. Steve Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) Oh here's Holmsey, we must have lost one Edited March 1 by Holloway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, On the Grid said: Steve Bruce I meant for him, here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dokko said: 19th in the form table. Only team worse is spurs, and that's the only team we've beat in those 5 games. It's bad. Real bad. It doesn't get much worse than this. I mean it is awful but it does get, it has been, much worse than this. Edited March 1 by KennyUtd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 10 minutes ago, Dokko said: 19th in the form table. Only team worse is spurs, and that's the only team we've beat in those 5 games. It's bad. Real bad. It doesn't get much worse than this. You do remember that we were previously managed by Steve Bruce don't you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, Holloway said: Oh here's Holmsey, we must have lost one touche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 26 minutes ago, JT24 said: If you set your work schedule for hours solely during Newcastle games I think we’d win the league. You will be pleased to know I’m at work for the derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, SUPERTOON said: You will be pleased to know I’m at work for the derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 39 minutes ago, Nine said: Works fine if the player isn’t making public statements burying the club and expressing his desire to leave We did this with Bruno. Because we got on the front foot with his contract. The club tried to strong arm Isak and Isak strong armed the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 35 minutes ago, Dokko said: 19th in the form table. Only team worse is spurs, and that's the only team we've beat in those 5 games. It's bad. Real bad. It doesn't get much worse than this. This was predicted. Our fixtures are difficult and we have fixture pile up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I can’t see us spending heavily in the summer. Believe it when I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BermyToon Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Three home losses in a row, and the next three home games are against Man U, City and Barça. Hope the crowd doesn't start chanting "sacked in the morning." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Wissa and Wolte were panic signnings. The others weren’t. Ultimately none of them have improved us in any department. Maybe 1 starts for us when everyone is fully fit which tells its own story. Disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, The College Dropout said: Wissa and Wolte were panic signnings. The others weren’t. Ultimately none of them have improved us in any department. Maybe 1 starts for us when everyone is fully fit which tells its own story. Disaster. We were chasing Wissa for 6-8 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Wissa was an overprice, but panic buy? We were chasing him the whole summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 What sickens me is that the events of last summer were a massive blow in the progression of our club, it was something that has totally and utterly hamstrung our season and any plans that we had. The project being in it's infancy still and Eddie left to pick up the pieces, with huge expectations to cover a complete mess, during a season where we've essentially been the victim of our own previous success. I just think it's out of order to put much blame on the manager, when we've lost our main forward and his back-up, had numerous injuries and been expected to play at a high-level across all competitions. Add in some seriously poor officiating along the way and I honestly believe Eddie is being put under pressure which he doesn't deserve. I get that our league form has suffered, but when you look at the two, emergency signings we made for large sums of cash, towards the end of a window and expected them to hit the ground running and immediately fit into the way we play, it's all kinds of wrong. I would love us to play blinding football in all tournaments and get results every time, but it's simply not realistic with the current squad and demands thereof. If Eddie gets forced out by a vocal minority, backed by shit-stirring media, I'll be gutted. I saw it with Sir Bobby and I never want to see it happen again - especially when it's plain that our manager is much better than recent results have credited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just seen we're 14th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 9 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: We were chasing Wissa for 6-8 weeks. After failing to keep Isak and failing to land Pedro, Delap, Etikite, Sesko and Strand Larsen. He’s a panic signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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