Eddie Howe

[St. Maximin]

Hope Howe gets a good summer and chance to turn it around. He will rightly be under pressure and needs to work well with the staff to get a good transfer window. If it means star players going so be it, but let’s get it sorted early doors and some good replacements. Even if they’re not as good he might benefit from more competent players than a few really good players combined with too many players that are poor/well past their best that he has now. 
 

On the subject of the last summer, clearly some things were beyond his control but I’m not fully convinced he’s simply been let down by his signings. He didn’t sign a bunch of nobodies. The following were included:

- A highly rated young Germany international raved about in Germany. 
- A prolific midtable Premier League striker, with a very impressive 19 goals last season. 
- One of the most productive wingers in the league last season.
 

They have all been largely rubbish. Some factors have clearly been beyond Howe’s control - injuries and players maybe suiting other systems/leagues better. That they have all been this bad and can’t seem to gel with their team though hardly reflects well on Howe, whether he wanted them or not. 

 

 

Edited March 23 by St. Maximin

[Stuy_O]

I wonder if he will be on a kind of stay of execution / trial in these remaining games. If they start getting results and look convincing in doing so he could keep his job, as well as getting some support back on his side. 

 

There's no doubt though in my mind that if we limp to the finishing line with a few more losses, playing the some of the most predictable football in the league, a section of our fans will completely lose it (rightly or wrongly) and he will be sacked. 

 

 

Edited March 23 by Stuy_O

[KennyUtd]

Do PIF even know our results ffs. Zero interest by the look of it. 

[TK-421]

Just now, KennyUtd said:

Do PIF even know our results ffs. Zero interest by the look of it. 

What's happened to Jamie Rueben, too?

Not heard much from him for a while.

[SUPERTOON]

30 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

 

Above him? It's debatable to the extent that anything is debatable, but there are no indications that the structure above him will change imminently, not that I'm aware of.

I meant more in terms of transfers, possible exists of a couple of key players coupled with the work we already need in terms of incomings. Won't be helped by the world cup either. Should be a lot more settled at boardroom level mind. 

[AJ9]

I’ve shifted a bit I have to say tbh. I’ll still never call for him to be sacked, because I think evidence is there that he will work things out and there’s much more about his role at the club that I think is needed for our city and fan base. 
 

But…the evidence of this week on top of so many shite, gutless, pathetic performances since the cup win make me think, if he’s sacked it wouldn’t be out of order and wouldn’t complain too much. 

[Wallsendmag]

Certainly some similarities here. Shame if he hasn't learned from the latter stages of his Bournemouth career;

 

[Jackie Broon]

 

11 minutes ago, Stuy_O said:

I wonder if he will be on a kind of stay of execution / trial in these remaining games. If they start getting results and look convincing in doing so he could keep his job, as well as getting some support back on his side. 

 

There's no doubt though in my mind that if we limp to the finishing line with a few more losses, playing the some of the most predictable football in the league, a section of our fans will completely lose it (rightly or wrongly) and he will be sacked. 

 

 

 

 

For me he is, I'm not Eddie out but we need to see whether it really does turn around when we're not playing two matches per week and he has more time on the training ground. 

[KennyUtd]

2 minutes ago, TK-421 said:

What's happened to Jamie Rueben, too?

Not heard much from him for a while.

Yep, him too. Everywhere when Amanda and her fella were still here. Not a peep out of him since really.

[RS]

1 hour ago, Holmesy said:

I always find this a really odd question/insinuation. As if suggesting the manager needs replacing but not offering a replacement renders the suggestion redundant.
I can probably name 12-15 managers in total in all of football because i am interested in Newcastle United, not keeping a mental roster of who's who in football management.

Could you name 1 you’d like to replace Eddie?

[Jesse Pinkman]

Interesting, looking at the Bournemouth fanbase many stating they wouldn’t take Eddie back now as Iraola, according to them, is a significantly better manager.

 

People on here deride Iraola, but he’s barely had any budget and basically lost his defence in the summer yet he is still developing talent and unearthing gems and playing a good style of football. Imagine what he could do with £500m

 

 

 

Edited March 23 by Jesse Pinkman

[The Prophet]

36 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

Howe is likely going nowhere. Hes got this club wrapped round his little finger and I think the Saudi’s are not that arsed about the club to make a statement manager signing. 
 

Let’s see what absolute dog shit Andy Howe can cook up in the Summer

 

Putting the daft Andy Howe stuff aside, would you not say until this summer, our talent ID has been very good? Even then not every signing last summer was a total dud, with the two strikers being targeted out of total desperation.

[Chicken Dancer]

7 minutes ago, RS said:

Could you name 1 you’d like to replace Eddie?

Aren’t you just goading him into an answer so you can scoff at whatever he suggests?

[St1pe]

As a bare minimum he deserves a summer window. 
 

I’m really worried how little he’s learned from this group and how he’s approached this type of team. It was exactly the same v Everton and he learned nothing. 

[Yorkie]

Wanting him to leave I can understand. Talking about him on a par with something you'd find on the bottom of your shoe I'll never understand. 

 

Thank God social media only turned up when it did. We'd have no legends to speak of. 

[bobbydazzla]

On 05/11/2021 at 11:13, cherryred said:

Bournemouth fan here. Thought I'd pop on to see what you're all saying about our lord and saviour Eddie Howe.

 

IMO he has the potential to be a brilliant appointment for you lot. One thing you get with Eddie is hard, hard work. He was always the first in the club and last to leave each day, to the point where by his final season he had really burnt himself out a bit tbh, which definitely contributed to us getting relegation. He is amazing at developing players up to and beyond their potential, and not always the players you necessarily think of as having potential. He took a team of lower league nobodies, and championship/PL rejects, and turned them into absolute star performers who left everything they had on the pitch. Players like Simon Francis, Marc Pugh, Steve Cook owe much of their careers to Eddie. I've never seen a squad with such an insane team spirit as ours that got promoted from the championship, but tbf that may also be as a consequence of our rapid rise through the leagues as much as anything. 

 

On the training ground as well he is an absolute monster. Forget his nice guy image in the media, on the training pitch he suffered no fools and had a hell of a vocabulary on him. He's very meticulous in his approach to tactics which led to us playing some absolutely stunning beautiful football at times, but in his latter days he did show a bit of an unwillingness to change style and personel which held us a back a bit. He takes his time with new signings so I wouldn't necessarily expect to see any January transfers walk straight into the team. He usually took a good 6 months at least to bed a player into the setup before he trusted them in the starting 11.

 

One thing I'm really interested in is how he deals with your board. At Bournemouth he was known for being a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club (think SAF at man u or Wenger at Arsenal), and one of the rumoured reasons why he left when we went down was that our board tried to change some of that and he basically walked. I'm not sure how this will translate to your current circumstance and how much Eddie has chnaged in this regard over his long break from football, as his obsessiveness and full effort definitely contributed to his downfall at the end of his time with us.

 

Either way, Eddie Howe is THE living legend as far as I'm concerned and you should be counting your blessing that he will grace your touchline with his presence 

 

Worth having a deeks at this again

 

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

Interesting, looking at the Bournemouth fanbase many stating they don’t take Eddie back now as Iraola, according to them, is a significantly better manager.

 

People on here deride Iraola, but he’s barely had any budget and basically lost his defence in the summer yet he is still developing talent and unearthing gems. 

Just had a quick look on Up The Cherries they're overwhelmingly defending Howe, unsurprisingly. 

 

 

[bobbydazzla]

On 05/11/2021 at 11:39, cherryred said:

 

It was a bit of that tbf. Like I said, whenever the team was threatened or in trouble, Eddie always reverted to the old guard and the classic "Bournemouth way" of playing football. This got us so far but when the old guard started to show their age and couldn't keep up with the PL we got rocked. We also had a shite ton of injuries to key players we'd signed to add a bit of youth and attack to our system (Brooks, Wilson at time as you'll probably understand lol, Danjuma). 

 

Can't ignore the fact that we only got relegated by 1 point courtesy of that disallowed Sheffield goal  at Villa that did actually cross the line. I think if we didn't have the injuries we would've stayed up and many Bournemouth fans I think would agree with me on that.

 

And having a deeks at this also

 

 

Edited March 23 by bobbydazzla

[bobbydazzla]

17 minutes ago, RS said:

Could you name 1 you’d like to replace Eddie?

 

Why does identifying a potential problem mean you also have to suggest a possible solution ? 

 

I haven't got a clue about the global management talent pool. Doesn't mean I can't think we look stale and out of ideas and a change MIGHT be what's needed to fix things.

 

And for the record, I'm neither Howe In or Howe Out. I can see upsides and downsides of both sticking and twisting.

 

 

Edited March 23 by bobbydazzla

[SUPERTOON]

12 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Putting the daft Andy Howe stuff aside, would you not say until this summer, our talent ID has been very good? Even then not every signing last summer was a total dud, with the two strikers being targeted out of total desperation.

It was, but tbf, we hadn't signed anyone for two years, most of the people responsible for that success have left. 

[Kid Icarus]

If you're very confident in your assertion that a manager should be replaced, it massively helps your argument if you can cite even just one manager that you're confident could do better, or has the CV to match or better Howe's. 

 

I don't think it's a remotely controversial thing to be asked. It's not like it is with players where the possibilities are endless, the pool of managers that could come in will be very small and I would expect them to be pretty well known if their achievements are anything to hang your hat on. 

 

 

Edited March 23 by Kid Icarus

[Kimbo]

2 hours ago, astraguy said:

And let's not forget he was in hospital last year, yet some of our scum want to him gone already when we are down to the bare minimum. Khusanov/ Trafford sesko Ekitike Pedro delap oh what a difference they would of been 

I don’t think we had a chance of signing at least 3 of those. I felt like Sesko and Ekitike were using us to force decisions from Man U and Liverpool, and Pedro was probably the same.

[Dokko]

19 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

Certainly some similarities here. Shame if he hasn't learned from the latter stages of his Bournemouth career;

 

 

This is why his time here has come to an end. Bournemouth fans still love him for whst he's done, but most will agree they are now better off without him, and have move up a level. We'll always be grateful for what he's done here, but we need to attain the next level and for me,  he can't do it. 

 

Whether we have if in us to find the next level manager needed is another argument, but that  shouldn't detract from the situation we have now, and that is he's taking us backwards and has done so for the last year. It's not kneejerk, it's not disloyalty, it's facing up to the truth of the situation, and some cannot handle it due to the love for him. I get that as well. But where has sentiment got you in football? 

 

 

[The Prophet]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

It was, but tbf, we hadn't signed anyone for two years, most of the people responsible for that success have left. 

 

The individuals responsible for our talent ID? They're pretty much all still there. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

The individuals responsible for our talent ID? They're pretty much all still there. 

Getting deals done i meant. I am sure we would have managed one of the main targets from last summer if Amanda was still here.