Eddie Howe

[Heron]

14 minutes ago, 1881 said:

Eddie Howe does not need any of us to defend him, his record at the club both in terms of results and player development speak for themselves. If it is not good enough for some people so be it.

 

I am sure he would rotate more if he felt the squad was strong enough to allow it. I am sure he would substitute quicker if he felt his bench was strong enough. I am sure he would have evolved our tactics if the summer hadn’t been such a disaster and he had more time on the training pitch.

 

Yes we spent a lot of money in the summer and it hasn’t all worked out yet, but the timing of the sale (which I doubt was Howe’s doing) and the fact we lost a world-class striker are not excuses, just reality. Our whole game was built around Isak.

 

Perhaps it is because I have waited 55 years to see Newcastle win a trophy that I have more patience than some, but I believe Eddie has done way more than enough to be given the respect of being allowed to continue to lead the team forward.

 

He always said he would stay at the club as long as he felt wanted and I believe he would.

 

Eddie is not my king, but he as my upmost respect and gratitude for what he has done for the club and how he has represented us.

 

 

 

 

 

Amen to that brother.

[Jesse Pinkman]

I am loyal to the club and not the manager. Managers come and go.
 

If the club think at the end of the season they can get someone else better I will back the decision 100% and get behind the new manager. If they back Howe I will back that decision too.
 

Exciting times either way as it sounds like the club really do have big ambitions, and are willing to invest to make it happen (as much as permitted by PSR). That is all a fan can ask for. Especially after decades under Ashley.

 

 

Edited March 31 by Jesse Pinkman

[midds]

Poor choice of words from Hopkinson and it's invited unnecessary speculation from all and sundry which isn't ideal. Any post-mortem - and there 100% needs to be one after a pretty dismal season imo - needed to be done at the end of the season and not with 7 games to go. He's, maybe inadvertently, opened the window into what they're thinking when the public message should have been expressing disappointment about how the season has panned out with 100% loyalty to the boss for the rest of the games - even if they do have doubts you don't express them publically and it's kept in house. He could have used his words with more tact and got a much better and more positive message out there but he's chosen not to for some reason? Or he's just blurted it out and it's been misinterpreted? Either way we've got loads of time for this to build up into something it never needed to be in the first place

 

The dopey cunt

[Kid Icarus]

'The club' Jesse Pinkman's loyal to in this case is the CEO who's been here 6 months and done nothing of note yet and our absentee owners then.

 

'The club' is not, however, the manager who's been here 5 years, escaped relegation, won us a trophy, got 2 champions league qualifications, a final, a semi, and 2 quarter finals, etc.

 

 

Edited March 31 by Kid Icarus

[Jesse Pinkman]

6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

'The club' in Jesse Pinkman's case is the CEO who's been here 6 months and done nothing of note yet then.

 

'The club' is not, however, the manager who's been here 5 years, escaped relegation, won us a trophy, 2 champions league qualifications, a final, a semi, and 2 quarter finals.

The club is much more than the CEO lol. 

You say you back the club whichever decision is made on a Newcastle forum and you get shit. Unbelievable really. 

 

 

 

Edited March 31 by Jesse Pinkman

[Whitley mag]

The noise is getting louder and it’s a fair point to think is it right for the CEO to ramp pressure on his own manager in public.

 

However, i also don’t think it’s the right approach to write off the final 7 games and just say Eddie go again next season.

 

In a situation where we don’t beat the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth at home, it’s going to be difficult for the club to hold their nerve, if the same short comings are laid to bare again and there’s no sign of any tactical adjustments.

 

At the end of the day it’s in Eddie’s hands, if he can’t get a tune out of these players in the last 7 games it gives the club a decision to make in my opinion.

 

 

 

Edited March 31 by Whitley mag

[Interpolic]

54 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

This is true 😀 but again, not really relevant to the discussion pal. I’m guessing Eddie is your King? 

 

He's earnt a hell of a lot more respect than you show him. 

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

The club is much more than the CEO lol. 

 

Your post uses 'the club' as shorthand for the CEO and our absentee owners - ie the people who make the decisions on our manager and investments. Immediately after saying it's the club that you're loyal to. 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

I am loyal to the club and not the manager. Managers come and go.
 

If the club think at the end of the season they can get someone else better I will back the decision 100% and get behind the new manager. If they back Howe I will back that decision too.
 

Exciting times either way as it sounds like the club really do have big ambitions, and are willing to invest to make it happen (as much as permitted by PSR). That is all a fan can ask for. Especially after decades under Ashley.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 31 by Kid Icarus

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Whitley mag said:

The noise is getting louder and it’s a fair point to think is it right for the CEO to ramp pressure on his own manage in public.

 

However, i also don’t think it’s the right approach to write off the final 7 games and just say Eddie go again next season.

 

In a situation where we don’t beat the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth at home, it’s going to be difficult for the club to hold their nerve, if the same short comings are laid to bare again and there’s no sign of any tactical adjustments.

 

At the end of the day it’s in Eddie’s hands, if he can’t get a tune out of these players in the last 7 games it gives the club a decision to make in my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

I think this is true, but then again I'm convinced Eddie will sort this out.

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

The club is much more than the CEO lol. 

You say you back the club whichever decision is made on a Newcastle forum and you get shit. Unbelievable really. 

 

 

 

 

Do you trust those making the decision though? Whether it be our absent owners, or our CEO who talks more than he delivers. Why would you currently back them over Howe at this moment in time? Genuine question btw.

[Heron]

I mean...I'm pretty sure I've explained numerous times why I am Howe In not Howe Out. I'm sure I've asked numerous times what the alternatives are and very rarely been given viable answers.

 

I think @Jesse Pinkmans stance is fair enough personally. We do ultimately support Newcastle United.

 

However, to suggest that folk are simply saying "EHBAWA" or "Eddie is our king" without backing that statement isn't correct @Holmesy. For one, his record here speaks for itself, both in terms of results and player development. The recruitment one is a speculative debate which ever way you want to take it. I can nigh on guarantee folk will gladly accuse him of last summers failings and attribute all other signings (that were successes) to other folk - if that suits their agenda - just as others will attribute the signings in an opposite direction. It is all speculative though. But it has been explained numerous times by myself, @Kid Icarus, @Interpolicand many others.

 

There are few managers who would improve us at present and whom are available - I think that is something we can all agree on?

 

If not...then I'll gladly review this ocean of talent we have to pick from (...and whom can be identified by those saying "Howe out").

 

Howe isn't perfect and isn't faultless, but he definitely deserves more support and respect than he receives. He's quite simply guilty of being a nice guy in this regard, and that costs him in the (Social?) media.

 

 

Edited March 31 by Heron

[PauloGeordio]

9 minutes ago, Heron said:

I mean...I'm pretty sure I've explained numerous times why I am Howe In not Howe Out. I'm sure I've asked numerous times what the alternatives are and very rarely been given viable answers.

 

I think @Jesse Pinkmans stance is fair enough personally. We do ultimately support Newcastle United.

 

However, to suggest that folk are simply saying "EHBAWA" or "Eddie is our king" without backing that statement isn't correct @Holmesy. For one, his record here speaks for itself, both in terms of results and player development. The recruitment one is a speculative debate which ever way you want to take it. I can nigh on guarantee folk will gladly accuse him of last summers failings and attribute all other signings (that were successes) to other folk - if that suits their agenda - just as others will attribute the signings in an opposite direction. It is all speculative though. But it has been explained numerous times by myself, @Kid Icarus, @Interpolicand many others.

 

There are few managers who would improve us at present and whom are available - I think that is something we can all agree on?

 

If not...then I'll gladly review this ocean of talent we have to pick from (...and whom can be identified by those saying "Howe out").

 

Howe isn't perfect and isn't faultless, but he definitely deserves more support and respect than he receives. He's quite simply guilty of being a nice guy in this regard, and that costs him in the (Social?) media.

 

 

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

19 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Do you trust those making the decision though? Whether it be our absent owners, or our CEO who talks more than he delivers. Why would you currently back them over Howe at this moment in time? Genuine question btw.

Yeah for once in decades I do. All the people employed are generally elite and seen as some of the top in their field. They are paid well to make the big decisions. 

 

We don’t have Charnley’s employed anymore. 
 

I will back whatever decision is made. I know we can be successful with or without Howe. So I will just back the team. 

 

 

Edited March 31 by Jesse Pinkman

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

Yeah for once in decades I do. All the people employed are generally elite and seen as some of the top in their field. They are paid well to make the big decisions. 

 

We don’t have Charnley’s employed anymore. 
 

I will back whatever decision is made. I know we can be successful with or without Howe. So I will just back the team. 

 

 

 

Fair, right now I’d disagree with us having elite people employed above Howe mind. 

[Dokko]

23 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

I think this is true, but then again I'm convinced Eddie will sort this out.

 

I think he will. Hope he will. If he doesn't, then it's got to be the end and the club needs to rebuild pretty much everything in his absence. Gaunlet is down, all in his hands. Players back, one game a week. Perfect conditions. 

 

I do think they've got Mourinho pencilled in for the role though. They'll see him as a manager with his own clout, who can bring in players on his own reputation, something Howe has struggled with. We all know how that goes though, does well 1st season, fall out with everyone 2nd season and leaves halfway through. They'll be counting on a good couple of windows using his pull. That's how I see this going if Howe can't end the season well (and whether he still wants to be here)

[Miggys First Goal]

If they do bring Mourinho in, we need a second series of that Amazon documentary we did. I need to see it all fall apart. 

[SUPERTOON]

I’m out if we get Mourinho.

[Wolfcastle]

Don't think the 7 games will make much difference to the positive and only emphasise the negative if things don't pick up. 

We only lost one of the last 7 games of a dire 2000/01 season and played well in much of it, it took the edge off but didn't really alter the assessment of the season in the round.

Cant see us doing either spectacularly well or spectacularly badly to alter anything.

A chinwag was needed either way at seasons end about plans and whether they're compatible with what's available,

 

 

Edited March 31 by Wolfcastle

[Interpolic]

Mourinho hasn't been a good appointment for anyone for over ten years now. The game has passed him by. Even in his pomp his teams were often very tedious. Great character obviously and his achievements for quite a long time were top notch. 

 

The only positive to appointing him would be it being a helpful heads-up that the higher-ups at NUFC haven't got a fucking clue what they're doing, instead of the current scenario where the jury is out. I don't like this Hopkinson gadgie much at all so far though. 

[Lush Vlad]

Mourinho FFS  there would be no point in that! 

 

I’m more Howe in, than Howe out. But part of me is intrigued to see what sort of coach we would go for and how much of a pull we could be to so called bigger names. 
 

I don’t really agree with people always saying ‘who is better/who should we replace Howe with’. Do people genuinely watch enough football to know who we could or should get in? Also, if people suggest a marquee name it is laughed at as unrealistic. But a more unproven gamble on a younger, less experienced manager. Then that gets thrown out too. 
 

It’s like for when Tino and Tonali leave? Do we have much of a clue who we should be getting and what they’d cost? Or how Wissa is a waste of money, but if we sign some bloke from Portugal. Who a few people have watched on Youtube. That will be a better bet? 
 

FWIW, I don’t think it is worth the risk trying someone other than Howe and unless we totally fall apart between now and the end of the season. He deserves a chance to right a fair few wrongs from this season. I’m just not as staunch in my defence of him as I once was. As the same old mistakes are getting repeated too often and I’m not sure he is learning or even wants to change how we play. 

[robbo_11]

Mourinho would be a step backwards.

 

From the CEO perspective, I think the quotes that have came out he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. You're going to get a % of fans saying not enough communication and then complain with quotes coming out. I think elements of it have been sensationalised which is driven by outlets looking for engagement hence terms like BOMBSHELL. If we went back to December 2025 you could say Howe called ownership out regarding training ground and stadium plans being in limbo - which at that time we haven't made progress in this area, albeit it sounds like training ground is coming up.

 

We've seven matches to achieve Europe this season and that will determine what this summer is going to look like. The messaging from Edwards was consistent that the aim was Europe this season which Howe would have known. Last summer has hindered this season, but you've now got a Sporting Director and CEO in place with the Board calling the shots. We either see Howe decide to leave, mutual agreement to part ways at end of the season or Howe stays and given chance of Newcastle 2.0 refresh.

 

 

 

[Heron]

3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Mourinho FFS  there would be no point in that! 

 

I’m more Howe in, than Howe out. But part of me is intrigued to see what sort of coach we would go for and how much of a pull we could be to so called bigger names. 
 

I don’t really agree with people always saying ‘who is better/who should we replace Howe with’. Do people genuinely watch enough football to know who we could or should get in? Also, if people suggest a marquee name it is laughed at as unrealistic. But a more unproven gamble on a younger, less experienced manager. Then that gets thrown out too. 
 

It’s like for when Tino and Tonali leave? Do we have much of a clue who we should be getting and what they’d cost? Or how Wissa is a waste of money, but if we sign some bloke from Portugal. Who a few people have watched on Youtube. That will be a better bet? 
 

FWIW, I don’t think it is worth the risk trying someone other than Howe and unless we totally fall apart between now and the end of the season. He deserves a chance to right a fair few wrongs from this season. I’m just not as staunch in my defence of him as I once was. As the same old mistakes are getting repeated too often and I’m not sure he is learning or even wants to change how we play. 

It's entirely relevant to the debate though, surely? Like anyone can say "I want us to be the best team in the world and never ever lose a game" but the reality is we cannot, no one can. So to my mind, it's easy for anyone to say "Howe is the problem" but then what is the solution?

 

We may not all be scouts or coaches or whatever but we sure as hell watch enough football collectively on this forum to have ideas around managers who might fit. I think I've only ever seen about half a dozen names mentioned (if that!).

 

Mourinho

Frank (pre Spurs)

Glasner

Iraola

 

The best suggestion I've heard recently was Simeone but as to whether someone like that is attainable is beyond me. With our money is anyone attainable? With PSR constraints is it even possible to rebuild the squad the same way as previous?

[Keegans Export]

17 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

I think he will. Hope he will. If he doesn't, then it's got to be the end and the club needs to rebuild pretty much everything in his absence. Gaunlet is down, all in his hands. Players back, one game a week. Perfect conditions. 

 

I do think they've got Mourinho pencilled in for the role though. They'll see him as a manager with his own clout, who can bring in players on his own reputation, something Howe has struggled with. We all know how that goes though, does well 1st season, fall out with everyone 2nd season and leaves halfway through. They'll be counting on a good couple of windows using his pull. That's how I see this going if Howe can't end the season well (and whether he still wants to be here)

Does he still have the clout? If we're looking at players 18-24 then I'm not sure he does. 

 

I'd say they're much more likely to go with a younger coach, unless they get lucky with a big name (Ashley managing to bring in Rafa for example). Someone like McKenna or Carrick (if he doesn't get the Man Utd job). Not sure what the list of non-UK based equivalents would look like. 

[Ben]

I reckon the fact Andoni Iraola is out of contract in the summer and he hasnt signed a new one yet might be a sign 

[Funtime Frankie]

17 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

Does he still have the clout? If we're looking at players 18-24 then I'm not sure he does. 

 

I'd say they're much more likely to go with a younger coach, unless they get lucky with a big name (Ashley managing to bring in Rafa for example). Someone like McKenna or Carrick (if he doesn't get the Man Utd job). Not sure what the list of non-UK based equivalents would look like. 

There are a few young managers in Germany doing well so potentially one of these.