STM Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 They can want him all they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 A few barriers to overcome but I think Klopp would be great for England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) I’ll say it again, the limited time he would have with a national team is so far away from this guys style and ethos that on the surface it just would not make sense. You can’t drill a team to play his football when only seeing the players twice every couple of months.. to make the point I think it’s a big reason why Southgate is so passive in his style, although he has his limitations as a manger it also suits tournament football because it’s much easier to drill a team to a simplistic style when you don’t have the time available. Edited July 14 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Vile bump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, James said: A few barriers to overcome but I think Klopp would be great for England Would sicken the Micky Mousers too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, Nine said: I’ll say it again, the limited time he would have with a national team is so far away from this guys style and ethos that on the surface it just would not make sense. You can’t drill a team to play his football when only seeing the players twice every couple of months.. to make the point I think it’s a big reason why Southgate is so passive in his style, although he has his limitations as a manger it also suits tournament football because it’s much easier to drill a team to a simplistic style when you don’t have the time available. Really ? How come other teams manage a high press ? And to think most of the players he has play for teams who use a high press ...... so why wont/can't he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I dislike Klopp a great deal but with these players he wins an international tournament Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 8 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Yes he is. Don't let a poorly chosen move to a poisonous football club distract you from that. Brighton were a nightmare to play against while he was there. Yet Brighton fans weren't really fussed about losing him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Menace said: Yet Brighton fans weren't really fussed about losing him I may be wrong but I’m sure they were saying how if they had a decent striker they’d have been devastating. I remember that as when we were looking to bring in the poisonous dwarf they were saying he didn’t have an eye for a decent forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, madras said: Really ? How come other teams manage a high press ? And to think most of the players he has play for teams who use a high press ...... so why wont/can't he ? It’s not a case of can’t or won’t, personally I think he tries to play to his own strengths because he is aware he has his limitations.. however his track record has proved that his style is effective at national level. A better manager of course could squeeze a lot more out of that level of attacking talent, hopefully we get to see that before long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 8 minutes ago, Nine said: I’ll say it again, the limited time he would have with a national team is so far away from this guys style and ethos that on the surface it just would not make sense. You can’t drill a team to play his football when only seeing the players twice every couple of months.. to make the point I think it’s a big reason why Southgate is so passive in his style, although he has his limitations as a manger it also suits tournament football because it’s much easier to drill a team to a simplistic style when you don’t have the time available. This is it. He isn’t suited to international football, you could say the same for Rafa, and Mourinho. They need time to bed in their philosophy, look at Hall, a year to get a game, even only did because of injuries, even though Howe see’s him as someone for the future. I can’t see him going even if the FA asked about him, but even if he did, he’d be making a huge mistake. The FA will go for someone who won’’t cause a fuss, who’ll pick the players at big clubs who’ll sell a few more England shirts, any sort of progress or success is secondary to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nine said: It’s not a case of can’t or won’t, personally I think he tries to play to his own strengths because he is aware he has his limitations.. however his track record has proved that his style is effective at national level. A better manager of course could squeeze a lot more out of that level of attacking talent, hopefully we get to see that before long. I'm not sure if it is effective, yes we've made 2 finals and a semi but we've not been convincing and been lucky in the draws, especially given the strength of squad he has at hand. Edited July 14 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Hard to see the FA having the cash or the ambition to make a serious go at recruiting Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Scrap having a FT manager and go big on some sort of Technical Director who'll study international opposition inside-out, then go for a Head Coach and pick a squad based on form/the opposition on a game-by-game basis. Would make international football a helluva lot more interesting. You could then go for top-class managers knowing they'd only be away from their clubs for 10 days at a time, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Menace said: Yet Brighton fans weren't really fussed about losing him That says more about Brighton fans. Potter is a good coach and has tactical style that is effective. Totally comfortable passing out from the back and patient. The only thing is him not being a particularly well known name.. is he going to command the respect of certain young players with egos etc. Him being out of the game a while now won't do him any favours. It'll be Howe they go for imho.. but not yet. Which is why I think someone like Carsley will get the job in a "caretaker role" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I have absolutely no doubt he would turn it down. It's just not what he wants or needs. He's an obsessive, he needs the day to day interaction. 10-15 years maybe but not now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Hard to see the FA having the cash or the ambition to make a serious go at recruiting Howe. they managed to make southgate the highest paid international manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Don't even know why it gets discussed, Eddie won't be leaving us for England . Edited July 14 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, huss9 said: they managed to make southgate the highest paid international manager. It's not just the wages, it's releasing him from his contract. I'm fairly confident Howe would turn it down regardless. There's a reason you rarely see top flight managers move mid-contract from club to country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Unfathomable levels of improvement over the lucky donkey he’d replace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I do like to try and stay measured and cautious but I'll eat my hat if Howe goes to England like, just don't see it at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Miggys First Goal said: Frank Lampard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 It gets discussed partly because he himself has described it as the ultimate job. I don't think he'll take it but I'd have to be stupid to write it off as a possibility Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 12 minutes ago, gazza ladra said: Frank Lampard. Fits the profile that FA love of: -English -Ex-international player -Shit club manager -Negative football philosophy -Insanely boring person Edited July 14 by Skeletor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Graham Potter is a fair shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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