Eddie Howe

[Erikse]

39 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I get that there’s a lot of pissed-off people re the window, but we’ve still got a very good manager and a very good squad of players.  I don’t see why the same target of aiming for top 6/7 and a cup run would have changed. 

 

Judging by the reaction from people when we lost out on ECL, top 4 (or at the very least battling for it) was supposed to be a given this season. Not 6/7.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2024 by Erikse

[Kanj]

Just now, Sean said:

They are not all in some boys club helping each other out. In the main they are competing against each other, as they are with non London clubs.

You don’t think Parish is dieing to curry favor with the Chelsea ownership? He votes yes to anything the big 6 boys want. 
 

Remind me what you thought of Amanda? Should I bring that up again?

[TheBrownBottle]

54 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Judging by the reaction from people when we lost out on ECL, top 4 (or at the very least battling for it) was supposed to be a given this season. Not 6/7.

 

 

 

Nothing wrong with trying for top four, but expecting it seems unreasonable to me

[80]

Watched the conference. Thought Howe was reassuringly protective of the club and its processes and people. Different ways of interpreting that, but it doesn't look like he'll be knifing anyone or storming off any time soon. He seems to be dipping his hand in the blood, which is better than the alternative. Regardless of anything else about him, I see Eddie as someone who truly wants the best for the club, so his opinions count.

 

It's a smallish thing, but I also liked him overtly stating that he believes the club should sometimes hold it's money back with a view to the long term picture. There have been suggestions in the past that he's all in on short term, 'this season is the only season that matters' thinking. I think that's the first time it's been actively, convincingly dealt with.

 

Honestly I'm just looking forward to getting back to football at the moment. It's sad, but I'm actually looking forward to hitting next summer thinking we won't have to sell, and if we do we'll be able to extract maximum value and potentially set the club on the right path. 

 

It's quite funny watching some loyalists shit themselves. Somehow I'm shocked and somewhat disappointed that now is the time it's happened. I think this whole thing is less disturbing when you don't start out from the assumption that everything is always great. There's plenty to be concerned about, but there's still a range of possible explanations, and some of them are still honourable - given everything else, I think we should dig in with support; I think the alternative will do more harm.

 

Remember the good old days - 8 weeks ago - when people were convinced June was a well planned trick designed to mislead the media about our secret war chest? 

[Pata]

3 hours ago, Kanji said:

Does challobah want to move to north east of England to sit the bench?

 

Does Newcastle want to spend precious PSR money on a loan with no obligation or option? Does Newcastle want to then lower next windows budget pound for pound to have a backup? 
 

How long will it take him to get up to speed on our tactics? 

 

And why would Chelsea send him to a direct rival when they can send him to Crystal Palace? 

[Sibierski]

4 hours ago, Pata said:

 

And why would Chelsea send him to a direct rival when they can send him to Crystal Palace? 

 

Because they need rid of him, like they did with Sterling. If the offer was same, it would put Chalobah in driving seat if he wanted move and say accept it, or I'm staying and being disruptive.

 

Chalobah wouldn't be just this season, it would be view for future seasons too. Schar is getting on, last year, and no guarantees he's here next season. Legs could drop off by then which make us uneasy to give him a deal, and he could want a 3 year deal which he can get elsewhere and hopefully not here. 

[Yorkie]

6 hours ago, 80 said:

Watched the conference. Thought Howe was reassuringly protective of the club and its processes and people. Different ways of interpreting that, but it doesn't look like he'll be knifing anyone or storming off any time soon. He seems to be dipping his hand in the blood, which is better than the alternative. Regardless of anything else about him, I see Eddie as someone who truly wants the best for the club, so his opinions count.

 

It's a smallish thing, but I also liked him overtly stating that he believes the club should sometimes hold it's money back with a view to the long term picture. There have been suggestions in the past that he's all in on short term, 'this season is the only season that matters' thinking. I think that's the first time it's been actively, convincingly dealt with.

 

Honestly I'm just looking forward to getting back to football at the moment. It's sad, but I'm actually looking forward to hitting next summer thinking we won't have to sell, and if we do we'll be able to extract maximum value and potentially set the club on the right path. 

 

It's quite funny watching some loyalists shit themselves. Somehow I'm shocked and somewhat disappointed that now is the time it's happened. I think this whole thing is less disturbing when you don't start out from the assumption that everything is always great. There's plenty to be concerned about, but there's still a range of possible explanations, and some of them are still honourable - given everything else, I think we should dig in with support; I think the alternative will do more harm.

 

Remember the good old days - 8 weeks ago - when people were convinced June was a well planned trick designed to mislead the media about our secret war chest? 

 

Good post. Particularly re the bit in bold. Really can't be doing with the Craig Hope-ish catastrophising when there's no actual catastrophe.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

9 hours ago, Gottlob said:

An injury to Pope or Schar and we are now severely limited for half of the season. I personally don't think our defence looks great as it stands, and while it's on Howe to improve our ball retention and turn things around away from home, if we do start to control matches more and force other teams to sit back, I reckon we'll struggle more than we'd like to break teams down with attention once again turning to our lack of quality wingers.

 

The plus side obviously includes the return of Tonali, a really talented player who has the capacity to galvanise us out on the pitch, and I think Kelly and Osula were smart pickups. We do have a strong squad with everyone fit. But with Howe expressing his disappointment with our transfer business several times this summer and talking about players feeling unsettled, the end of the transfer window has provided nobody with a lift and it only increases the pressure on our current squad and coaching staff to perform this season.

TBF I think most teams would be limited if their main keeper and 3 first team CBs were out at the same time. 

[Gallowgate Toon]

I thought Howe's comments on players being unsettled was actually quite masterful - extremely out of character for him to say something like that so it felt purposeful.

 

Well, it worked for me, as it immediately took my attention away from anger/frustration to thinking about support for Sunday. Maybe it wasn't by design but it tied in very well with his unity comments from earlier in the presser.

[Erikse]

7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Nothing wrong with trying for top four, but expecting it seems unreasonable to me

 

That's what I thought aswell, even back then. Ofcourse we will try. But the narrative was that going out of ECL was a good thing, because now we will get top 4. Tried to say that it doesn't mean top 4 at all, most likely not, but that apparently an unpopular opinion.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2024 by Erikse

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Whey nothing actually means we'll get top 4, it's extremely difficult to get. 

[Erikse]

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Whey nothing actually means we'll get top 4, it's extremely difficult to get. 

 

Wonder why I got chased out of town for saying this back then. I couldn't believe so many just assumed that no Europe meant that top 4 was atleast very likely.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2024 by Erikse

[Elliottman]

‘The narrative can’t be we’re in a difficult position, the season has just started, we have everyone to achieve’

 

Hope the fans take a leaf out of Eddie’s book. 

[timeEd32]

I’m quite happy that the narrative building up around this is that Eddie was let down. He’s the best asset the club has at the moment.

 

This is not to say he’s blameless in whatever happened - I think they can all share some - but, maybe influenced by stuff on here, I thought the bullseye might be on him.

[TRon]

13 hours ago, 80 said:

Watched the conference. Thought Howe was reassuringly protective of the club and its processes and people. Different ways of interpreting that, but it doesn't look like he'll be knifing anyone or storming off any time soon. He seems to be dipping his hand in the blood, which is better than the alternative. Regardless of anything else about him, I see Eddie as someone who truly wants the best for the club, so his opinions count.

 

It's a smallish thing, but I also liked him overtly stating that he believes the club should sometimes hold it's money back with a view to the long term picture. There have been suggestions in the past that he's all in on short term, 'this season is the only season that matters' thinking. I think that's the first time it's been actively, convincingly dealt with.

 

Honestly I'm just looking forward to getting back to football at the moment. It's sad, but I'm actually looking forward to hitting next summer thinking we won't have to sell, and if we do we'll be able to extract maximum value and potentially set the club on the right path. 

 

It's quite funny watching some loyalists shit themselves. Somehow I'm shocked and somewhat disappointed that now is the time it's happened. I think this whole thing is less disturbing when you don't start out from the assumption that everything is always great. There's plenty to be concerned about, but there's still a range of possible explanations, and some of them are still honourable - given everything else, I think we should dig in with support; I think the alternative will do more harm.

 

Remember the good old days - 8 weeks ago - when people were convinced June was a well planned trick designed to mislead the media about our secret war chest? 

 

 

Well said.

[80]

4 hours ago, timeEd32 said:

I’m quite happy that the narrative building up around this is that Eddie was let down. He’s the best asset the club has at the moment.

 

This is not to say he’s blameless in whatever happened - I think they can all share some - but, maybe influenced by stuff on here, I thought the bullseye might be on him.

Definitely. The single best, provably true thing about this club right now is the team spirit, the connection between the players and fans. It's bruised at the moment, but Forest showed it's clearly still there. 

 

There's plenty of justifiable suspicion about everything else. But we have to hang onto that united identity on and around the pitch for grim death.

 

Imagine Howe went - what would replace him? At this time, it doesn't bear thinking about. The board and players must understand where our loyalty lies.

[PauloGeordio]

2 minutes ago, 80 said:

Definitely. The single best, provably true thing about this club right now is the team spirit, the connection between the players and fans. It's bruised at the moment, but Forest showed it's clearly still there. 

 

There's plenty of justifiable suspicion about everything else. But we have to hang onto that united identity on and around the pitch for grim death.

 

Imagine Howe went - what would replace him? At this time, it doesn't bear thinking about. The board and players must understand where our loyalty lies.

United 

[Vinny Green Balls]

3 hours ago, 80 said:

Definitely. The single best, provably true thing about this club right now is the team spirit, the connection between the players and fans. It's bruised at the moment, but Forest showed it's clearly still there. 

 

There's plenty of justifiable suspicion about everything else. But we have to hang onto that united identity on and around the pitch for grim death.

 

Imagine Howe went - what would replace him? At this time, it doesn't bear thinking about. The board and players must understand where our loyalty lies.

You are on some streak of brilliant posts, dude.

[gbandit]

3 hours ago, 80 said:

Definitely. The single best, provably true thing about this club right now is the team spirit, the connection between the players and fans. It's bruised at the moment, but Forest showed it's clearly still there. 

 

There's plenty of justifiable suspicion about everything else. But we have to hang onto that united identity on and around the pitch for grim death.

 

Imagine Howe went - what would replace him? At this time, it doesn't bear thinking about. The board and players must understand where our loyalty lies.

Nailed it

[Displayname]

3 hours ago, 80 said:

Definitely. The single best, provably true thing about this club right now is the team spirit, the connection between the players and fans. It's bruised at the moment, but Forest showed it's clearly still there. 

 

There's plenty of justifiable suspicion about everything else. But we have to hang onto that united identity on and around the pitch for grim death.

 

Imagine Howe went - what would replace him? At this time, it doesn't bear thinking about. The board and players must understand where our loyalty lies.

When we dont have the resources to replace Almiron/Murphy then yeah, just forget about replacing Howe with someone better. He is far from flawless, but there should be no doubt that we are lucky to have him. 

 

We just have to reset our expectations, we arent going to buy our way to the top of the league. 

If we are ever going to get there we need to get that feelgood factor back where the players and the fans feed off eachother.

 

We still have a damn exciting team who can compete with anyone when they are at their best.

[Coffee_Johnny]

 

How do you think Eddie feels about Louise Taylor? 

[Groundhog63]

7 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

 

How do you think Eddie feels about Louise Taylor? 

 

Luckily he's not the sort to want to "kick her in the cunt" like some off here 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Heron]

Her questionning smacks of "wanting to make it as difficult as possible for him"

 

Which, I guess as a reporter or journalist it is good practice to try and get juicy stories, but when that's your one tactic, you're really not gonna get far with someone intelligent like wor Eddie.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2024 by Heron

[frankpingel]

21 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

 

How do you think Eddie feels about Louise Taylor? 

If her current questioning style continues in same vein there'll be an issue. EH will be prepared I'd suggest. 

[Kilcline]

1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

 

How do you think Eddie feels about Louise Taylor? 

There are few things more low key satisfying than seeing someone dish out a look of utter contempt to someone so deserving of one