Pixelphish Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, Heron said: Pretty terrible today tbh. I'm still backing him. I think we owe it to him to back him too, personally. Desperately want him to turn it around, like. But my belief in his ability to do it is starting to wane I hate to admit. You're right though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Who are the possible unemployed managers out there? https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/analysing-sergio-conceicaos-porto/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 15 minutes ago, Erikse said: Do we actually know that there aren't any proper replacements out there? It's telling there have been no real exciting suggestions - in the press, on here, or elsewhere. There are no standout candidates that I can see in terms of anyone with serious pedigree who would represent real intent or ambition. That doesn't mean there aren't lesser known coaches who could be the next big thing in waiting - but this of course represents a greater risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Give Alonso the bag (don’t sack Eddie though ideally) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, black_n_white said: There’s not many coaches available? I’m still hoping Howe can turn this around, however who would be on people’s shortlist for his successor (not Mourinho) https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/analysing-sergio-conceicaos-porto/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, J7 said: I’m not having that personally. They’re rightly criticised for not strengthening in the summer, but this manager has basically had two new England international full backs (who’ve been a couple of our best players) and Tonali an Italian international starter introduced over the past few months. Two things can be true at the same time. Howe has done a great job developing both of those fullbacks and improving them. They have become full internationals over the last 18 months since joining. Neither were signed as one and remain long term project players. I think you can quite easily go and get another coach that might for example makes us more solid at the back but doesn't develop talent at the same level, or somebody else who gets us pinging the ball around expansively but conceding goals for fun. I may be wrong but I personally think whoever we get in is likely to have their own flaws and the real issue is that the squad has a glass ceiling of about 6th. Edited November 30, 2024 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, KDT said: Like are people actually serious with Mourinho? I know the general footballing intelligence here is low but fuck me that would be catastrophic. The people that are seriously calling for Mourinho would also be the first to want him out, ironic isn’t it Edited November 30, 2024 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiddyLevine Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, KDT said: Funny how replies and comments in here would change in 90 seconds of 1-0 to 1-1. If we had stolen the 3 points via a Crystal Palace own goal we'd still be shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, KDT said: Funny how replies and comments in here would change in 90 seconds of 1-0 to 1-1. That's obvious, surely? At 1-0 you've pinched an underserved win, but it's a win nonetheless. At 1-1, you've thrown away a win, and quite deservedly on the balance of play. It's easy to overlook the performance if you get a freak result, throwing it away like that is always going to shine a massive spotlight on the performance as a whole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 I think we should operate a strict no portugese policy at the club. Personally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Another insipid performance. That stands at 0-1 or 1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, wyn davies said: No, always been told your as good as your last job and unfortunately for managers that's the way it is results driven, can't see any positives hanging onto him for much longer. And he's done a good job here. We're only 4 points off second and in another cup quarter final. Does that mean if we beat Liverpool he's the best thing since sliced bread again? I think the owners will be getting twitchy and arguably, rightly so. But he deserves our support as supporters of NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, KDT said: Funny how replies and comments in here would change in 90 seconds of 1-0 to 1-1. I think the comments would have been "how have we managed to win a game without having a single shot" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, KDT said: Funny how replies and comments in here would change in 90 seconds of 1-0 to 1-1. If performances like today's were the exception, yes. But they've been the norm for far too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, andycap said: He's available and wins a fair bit. He reminds me of rafa in his setups and systems. If he's the solution, might as well fold up the whole club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 I think the writing is on the wall now for Howe, and it sickens me to say that. The team doesn't look coached properly at all. Our set pieces are terrible, we don't seem to know how to move forward with any decent attacking threat which is evident by the lack of goals scored, plus players like Isak, Gordon and even Bruno just look totally off it. The only good performances I've seen this season are probably Spurs (H) and Forest (A), I know we beat Arsenal but it was more them being completely shite rather than us being good. Zero shots against a side in the bottom three is probably one of the worst stats I can think of for us in recent years so it certainly seems like the problems are only getting worse. I genuinely don't know how Howe turns all this around. The warning signs were there last season and we put it down to injuries but this season we've had most of our players available and its been so bad. It pains me to say this because I genuinely like Howe and I'm desperate for him to be successful but knowing football you can spot the signs of a manager who has taken a team as far as he can and it certainly has the feel of that with Howe right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 minute ago, KaKa said: https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/analysing-sergio-conceicaos-porto/ Get him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Not even questioning Eddie, don’t even come into this thread. Prem’s just very competitive at the moment and in any other season, say, game week 13 of the 98/99 season, a team would be 7th with a points total of 19. Our upcoming two months of fixtures look promising and maybe a five game win streak could shoot you up the league, which I do think this team of capable of. Whoever said, Mourinho, no. That would send up club into a tailspin. We have to look at the long term project. Eddie’s our guy and we’re supporting him all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Howe > Mourinho is no different to Keegan > Dalglish and Robson > Souness imo. He’ll set us back 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 If we’re wanting a short term winning mentality manager, then going after Conte at end of season would be my choice. If it’s a statement manager, then Inzaghi in summer. Progressive manager with potential, Kieron McKenna at end of the season after they go down. End of day, what the future vision is for the club 25 onwards will determine who is the manager. If it’s still we will challenge the top boys, you will be backed well, and you’ve got a few seasons to move towards it, then we can attract anyone IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Zidane Potter Conceicaos Rafa Dr zerbi Cooper Robbins Mancini Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, Astroblack said: Not even questioning Eddie, don’t even come into this thread. Prem’s just very competitive at the moment and in any other season, say, game week 13 of the 98/99 season, a team would be 7th with a points total of 19. Our upcoming two months of fixtures look promising and maybe a five game win streak could shoot you up the league, which I do think this team of capable of. Whoever said, Mourinho, no. That would send up club into a tailspin. We have to look at the long term project. Eddie’s our guy and we’re supporting him all the way. I think the consistent poor performances is the main gripe, and the most worrying thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: It's telling there have been no real exciting suggestions - in the press, on here, or elsewhere. There are no standout candidates that I can see in terms of anyone with serious pedigree who would represent real intent or ambition. That doesn't mean there aren't lesser known coaches who could be the next big thing in waiting - but this of course represents a greater risk. Yeah, fair, but look at Arne Slot for example. I had never even heard of him myself. Not sure our board has the same "creativity" or know the market well enough, though. Edited November 30, 2024 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Just now, andycap said: Zidane Potter Conceicaos Rafa Dr zerbi Cooper Robbins Mancini Wat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Do one with the jose M craic.... has been, yesterday's man, defacates on nearly everything, a journey man who looks to sign a big contract, then designs a way to get sacked and payed off.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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