et tu brute Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, astraguy said: ffs here they come again,Sir Bobby all over again go to bed fellas Here's the sheep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 (edited) His substitutions have always been his biggest flaw. It was quite clear at half time Joelinton needed replacing but yet again he waited until the 60th minute when we where behind. Edited December 7 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 7 minutes ago, Elliottman said: It’s not a bad squad to be fair, certainly better than it’s showing at the moment. Pretty clear it's not cut out for playing with the intensity we need week in week out though and the RW issue has left us massively lacking up top. It's partly Howe's fault, he has a good eye for a player for a manager but we should have brought someone like Mitchell in years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, SUPERTOON said: His substitutions have always been his biggest floor. It was quite clear at half time Joelinton needed replacing but yet again he waited until the 60th minute when we where behind. Flaw not floor. 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 7 minutes ago, Newintoon said: U don’t just sack a manager after few poor results/ performances ffs, has my backing till the end of the season at least. in 2 weeks we could have 6 points against Leicester and Ipswich and in a semi final Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Brentford, Brighton, Fulham, Forrest and Bournemouth should not be above us in the table. All of them apart from Bournemouth with a game in hand. It's not good enough. What can you actually blame it on? We can't have 2 seasons in a row out of Europe if you want to be one of the big teams. You can't just have 1 UCL season and then dip. People are no longer taking us seriously and it is very worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 We seemed to change what we're doing to accommodate Gordon, fist half I was quite satisfied, second half we've forced Barnes out to the right, he's then not affecting the game and is hauled off for Miggy, at this point Howe has now used every winger while also introduces Wilson into the game and keeping Isak on? We could simply have left Barnes on the left introducing Wilson, for Murphy, and instructed Isak to play and cut in from the right, didn't understand complications using everyone, and I've said it before, it seems Gordon has priority where Eddie's choices are made, it's bizarre, because he's playing average all season, and has become lazy out of possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 It is easy to say it because the players are not good enough, but who from Brentford would get in to our best eleven? Or from Bournemouth, Fulham or Forest? You would be lucky to have 2 or 3 from each team getting in to our best eleven, yet they are going out and playing decent football because their managers have them motivated and sending them out with a game plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 2 minutes ago, astraguy said: ffs here they come again,Sir Bobby all over again go to bed fellas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 He shouldnt be given a substantial amount of money in January tbh. Not because I dont trust him, but because we need to have money for new signings available to entice a top place manager to come if Eddie doesnt fix what is clearly broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 The apathy is setting in like. Don't see how that will change without a change now. If Howe stays he must make changes in his staff now. We need fresh blood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 W5 D5 L5 is not good enough especially when we have pretty much all of the better sides to play away in the final 23 games. The likes of Fulham and Brentford away clearly aren't easy games, but when you have the 'big 6', Villa, Brighton etc. you simply can't be getting 0 points from Fulham A, Brentford A, West Ham H, or Brighton H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 What’s ’Sir Bobby all over again’ supposed to mean. Are the people talking this nonsense 20 and been listening to Mackems? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 He won’t be proactive in subs. We can’t defend, and haven’t done for 2 years now. He won’t bring in a defensive coach. We are fucking shit at set pieces, and he won’t bring in a set piece coach. If a player does come to the club, he’s got to wait ages until they get a game. Hall and Livramento last season when Burn and Trippier were giving away goals game after game. Osula this season when he had both Isak, and Wilson unavailable. Our press has gone. We can’t break teams down. Simple passes are misplaced. We aren’t even a shadow of the team he had us as a couple of years ago, and nothing so far indicates that he’s going turn it around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 1 minute ago, Roha said: The problem isn't that it has been a few poor results/performances. We have been so awful away for a long time. We still have the same issues that we had 3 years ago. Its not just about this year. Its about the results regardless. He got to have his "injuries" excuse last year. This year he has nothing. The system isnt working. The players are for some reason only motivating themselves to play top 6. There is a change needed. 3 years ago when we made the champions league from the fucking relegation zone the season before aye? Injuries excuse we were decimated man 7th was an alright season overall, This year so far has been inconsistent but couple good league results right back in the fight for Europe and could be in a semi final don’t be so quick to throw ur toys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Was he not backed in the window or was he part of that problem? Still a big question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 5 minutes ago, astraguy said: ffs here they come again,Sir Bobby all over again go to bed fellas Not a great analogy, given that Robson should’ve been sacked a lot earlier than he eventually was, and the failure to sack him when we should have damaged us badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 1 minute ago, Displayname said: He shouldnt be given a substantial amount of money in January tbh. Not because I dont trust him, but because we need to have money for new signings available to entice a top place manager to come if Eddie doesnt fix what is clearly broken. I actually don’t trust him. Elanga coming in on the right wing for 40 million. No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 2 minutes ago, astraguy said: ffs here they come again,Sir Bobby all over again go to bed fellas Agree about SBR but at what point does it become untenable? And it’s dependent on the owners, not the punters. They will have expectations and if he’s not meeting those expectations he’ll be bulleted. Simple as that and whether the punters like it or not. We’re owned by businessmen , not football people and that’s how it works now. SBR was a good tactician who could adapt and modify his approach to a game as it was happening. This all seems a bit one dimensional, which is how Keegan got found out too. Great motivator, poor coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 5 minutes ago, astraguy said: ffs here they come again,Sir Bobby all over again go to bed fellas Sacking Robson wasn't the issue, doing it 5 games in and replacing him with Souness was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 10 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said: Which manager is available? Honestly, I have no idea. But I also had no idea who Thomas Frank was until he turned up at Brentford and he's just embarrassed us in that second half. I still can't pronounce the Brighton managers name and he seems to be doing alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Not a great analogy, given that Robson should’ve been sacked a lot earlier than he eventually was, and the failure to sack him when we should have damaged us badly. And the fact he was replaced by Souness. And the fact it was 20 fucking years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 2 minutes ago, Stifler said: He won’t be proactive in subs. We can’t defend, and haven’t done for 2 years now. He won’t bring in a defensive coach. We are fucking shit at set pieces, and he won’t bring in a set piece coach. If a player does come to the club, he’s got to wait ages until they get a game. Hall and Livramento last season when Burn and Trippier were giving away goals game after game. Osula this season when he had both Isak, and Wilson unavailable. Our press has gone. We can’t break teams down. Simple passes are misplaced. We aren’t even a shadow of the team he had us as a couple of years ago, and nothing so far indicates that he’s going turn it around. Simple passes misplaced has nothing to do with Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 (edited) Our easiest start to the season in a very long time and we are languishing in 12th with a poor goal difference and we've played well maybe 3 games. With literally nothing looking like things will change. Edited December 7 by Aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roha Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, Newintoon said: 3 years ago when we made the champions league from the fucking relegation zone the season before aye? Injuries excuse we were decimated man 7th was an alright season overall, This year so far has been inconsistent but couple good league results right back in the fight for Europe and could be in a semi final don’t be so quick to throw ur toys I see that you want to clean over the issues due to his lucky CL position. Im sorry but I dont share that sentiment. Even if we managed to luck ourselves to a 4th, it doesn't mean there wasn't any issues. The big hole between the midfield and defensive line has been there ever since, never fixed. Tonali cant perform in our team due to the weird flat 3 that just doesn't work. Yet in Italy in a double pivot he looks amazing. We have no bite, and at some point its not down to just the players. Its down to the system, they get asked and tasked to do a job and this is how it looks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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