mofo Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: if only if were being discussed on this very page Fair... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Howe is an intersting choice. He clearly had problems in his last season in Bournemouth but as said above, he had took the club as far as he could. How many times have we seen a manager reshape an entire playing squad in order to push on, Ferguson did it at Man Utd, Wenger at Arsenal, any more? Its an incredibly difficult thing to do. Obviously Fergy and Wenger were top managers and maybe Howe could have if he'd had similar resources. Or maybe he just wasnt good enough. Time will tell if he comes here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said: Howe being 2nd choice and seen as ‘less exciting’, may well work in his favour if he is appointed, in terms of lower expectations and a bit less pressure. With time strumming short, I’d get him in now and offer a big bonus for keeping us up and every league position gained. & more likely for those in the crowd to turn against him quicker as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 46 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: The caulkin article says he impressed them with his idea of who to target in the January window and how he could work with Jones. And they where also impressed because he has worked with Wilson, Ritchie and Fraser before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I think after having their fingers burnt by playing the Emery appointment out in public, I wouldn't be surprised if Howe was appointed out of the blue and takes training today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nobody said: That makes sense as theres nowt we can do about Rithie or Fraser until Jan at the earliest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Lazarus said: That makes sense as theres nowt we can do about Rithie or Fraser until Jan at the earliest. Not playing them, or listening to Jones' ideas on tactics and starting eleven would be a good start like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lazarus said: That makes sense as theres nowt we can do about Rithie or Fraser until Jan at the earliest. Didn't he get a tune out of Fraser as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I just hope he reads the room during his first few pressers. None of this "It's a tough league" crap and he's off to a better start than 7 out of the last 9 managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, kisearch said: Didn't he get a tune out of Fraser as well? Until he refused to play for him which contributed to their relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Not sure what the problem is with the Jones and Ritchie part is? They should be nowhere near this club. Ritchie must be responsible for at least 6 goals we've conceded so far and it's November. This appointment has relegation written all over it. I hope I'm wrong. Edited November 4, 2021 by Menace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I'm definitely warming to Howe but the two things that worry me are if he decides to keep playing Ritchie due him playing for him before and also that the club seem to be insisting on keeping Jones around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Hope everyone is bracing themselves for the second public rejection today. Press will be like a dog with two dicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 They had already said Jones was staying, regardless of which manager comes in, so yes it's important that a new manager can get on with him. BTW, just because Jones isn't a good manager doesn't mean he's not a good coach or have a value to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, PeepShow4life said: Until he refused to play for him which contributed to their relegation. Oh boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, PeepShow4life said: I'm definitely warming to Howe but the two things that worry me are if he decides to keep playing Ritchie due him playing for him before and also that the club seem to be insisting on keeping Jones around. As long as Ritchie isn't playing LWB and is in more of an attacking role I don't think he'll be anywhere near as much of a liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Heard promising things about this Steve Bruce guy. Local lad, a nice man, over 1000 games managed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 And on the Ritchie thing.... he also sold the cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: As long as Ritchie isn't playing LWB and is in more of an attacking role I don't think he'll be anywhere near as much of a liability. You mean the guy with no pace, can't dribble or cross? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Imagine a new young manager took over Carlisle United this morning. Bucket collections to keep them afloat. He turns around their form and stops them getting relegated to Non League Football. Next season he sorts them out and they get promoted as Champions of League 2. Next season in League one they walk the league including doing the double over the biggest club to ever grace League One and everybodys cup final - Sunderland. Carlisle in championship sounds mental but they win that league including 8-0 away win at Birmingham. First time in their history Carlisle United are in the Premier League! They play great football and finish 9th! Carlisle finish 9th in Premier. This manager keeps Carlisle in Premier League for 5 seasons. Eventually they are relegated on final day. This, manager who done all this is labelled shite, overrated and a failure. Absolutely incredible This is a mirror image of what Eddie Howe did at Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Has Ritchie really dropped off that much that he can't cross? Genuinely asking because I didn't watch anything under Bruce. I thought Ritchie's crossing was pretty consistently decent under Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, LRD said: You mean the guy with no pace, can't dribble or cross? He can definitely cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Imagine a new young manager took over Carlisle United this morning. Bucket collections to keep them afloat. He turns around their form and stops them getting relegated to Non League Football. Next season he sorts them out and they get promoted as Champions of League 2. Next season in League one they walk the league including doing the double over the biggest club to ever grace League One and everybodys cup final - Sunderland. Carlisle in championship sounds mental but they win that league including 8-0 away win at Birmingham. First time in their history Carlisle United are in the Premier League! They play great football and finish 9th! Carlisle finish 9th in Premier. This manager keeps Carlisle in Premier League for 5 seasons. Eventually they are relegated on final day. This, manager who done all this is labelled shite, overrated and a failure. Absolutely incredible This is a mirror image of what Eddie Howe did at Bournemouth. All whilst spending more than Liverpool in the process Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Ritchie was finished under Rafa. Bruce kept him on because he's one of the lads and a grafter. If Howe is smart he will spot that Ritchie is finished. If he's not, then Howe won't be a success anyway. It might take a couple of games though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The article says that he has a plan as to how he can fit Jones in. As for Caulkin mentioning the three Bournemouth players, he fell out with Fraser and dropped and then sold Ritchie, so I wouldn't read into that too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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