Transfer rumours

[Holmesy]

If we look at who most urgently needs replacing in the first team, I think you'd have to go with:

 

Gayle 

Clark/Lascelles

Ritchie at LB

Krafth/Manquillo

Almiron/Murphy 

Shelvey

 

That would be my list of priorities. Shelvey has been performing and Big Joe has been excellent in his midfield role, which pushes CM down the priority list for January IMO.

I would prioritise a #10 or wide creative player over the CM role because Almiron's decision making is pap and Murphy is inconsistent. We are completely reliant on ASM for creativity and that makes us too easy to play against. That needs to change if we're going to stay up

[South-Cheshire-Toon]

It's now quite interesting to see who's posting what crazy ideas as to who we could now be looking at signing, as without a doubt, the management have targeted several players to fill specific rolls.

 

But only the trippier one was a starter from the get go - ALL of the others are just hearsay - I'm waiting with baited breath to see what happens - My browser is on a constant 20 second refresh.

 

And at this moment I couldn't even to think to state players we could be interested in - as we've never been in this position - having money to spend.

 

The mind can only boggle at what the permutations  of the players out there - with the budget we have - and it's only 6 days into a 31 day window.

 

I think I'm going to need a lie-down. 

[coleturner]

Digne and Diego carlos are good players and very good mentality 

 

but we need offensive player now to SCOre  

 

vlahovic will be exceptionnal but Jovic on load is good 

 

Martin Dúbravka

Trippier   Diego Carlos Lascelles or Tarkowski    Digne 

 

Wijnaldum ( Joelinton )   Willock or Zaccaria or Veretout 

 

Lindgaard    Ramsay or van de Beek    Maximum or Almiron

 

Jovic or Wilson 

 

 

if yon can better with a goalkeeper for exemple : henderson or leno to secure 

 

but you need yo have all players before 15 january , and with the covid more players not only 5 players to buy 

 

 

 

 

[Fantail Breeze]

Sky stating we’re in for Coutinho.

[Manxst]

Danny Rose being released by Watford. Bring him home?! 

[Shearergol]

2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Sky stating we’re in for Coutinho.

 

I'm 100% in on this one now. He's one of the best players I've ever seen play at SJP so turning our noses up at him would be mental. I realise he comes with big wages, but people talking about being up for a relegation battle need to keep in mind that teams with better players don't have to "grind out results". The results will just come because the players are actually capable of using the ball.

[jack j]

1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

 

I'm 100% in on this one now. He's one of the best players I've ever seen play at SJP so turning our noses up at him would be mental. I realise he comes with big wages, but people talking about being up for a relegation battle need to keep in mind that teams with better players don't have to "grind out results". The results will just come because the players are actually capable of using the ball.

Hes gan to Villa

[jack j]

4 minutes ago, Manxst said:

Danny Rose being released by Watford. Bring him home?! 

? fat little lazy mackem shit. Defo belongs in league 1

[SUPERTOON]

4 minutes ago, Manxst said:

Danny Rose being released by Watford. Bring him home?! 

Milan not interested?

[Simples]

2 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

I'm 100% in on this one now. He's one of the best players I've ever seen play at SJP so turning our noses up at him would be mental. I realise he comes with big wages, but people talking about being up for a relegation battle need to keep in mind that teams with better players don't have to "grind out results". The results will just come because the players are actually capable of using the ball.

I can't see how he doesn't go villa with Gerrard 

[Shearergol]

1 minute ago, jack j said:

Hes gan to Villa

 

The Gerrard link I guess. Would be a massive shame.

[Nexumaster]

Just now, Shearergol said:

 

The Gerrard link I guess. Would be a massive shame.

 

Aye, when new managers were being touted I didn't reckon much to Gerrard, but I hadn't considered how his connections could change things!

[SUPERTOON]

Would be shocked if he went to Villa over arsenal or spurs 

[The Prophet]

He'd be competing for places with Odegaard and SR at Arsenal mind.

[JonBez comesock]

My thinking on this 

 

if players don’t want to come , more the fool them 

 

they can’t see the bigger picture and don’t have faith in their own ability 

 

Example 

Digne walks into the discussions and asks why he should sign , what’s the plan 

 

we tell him , we are looking to attract top players , we want to build a team to compete at the top 

if players don’t want to come and don’t grasp the situation 

 

I believe they don’t have confidence in their own ability to keep us up , don’t want to build something special and therefore can xxxx off 

[Geordie_once_removed]

Coutinho to Villa makes sense in terms of the team. He plays a similar role to the one Grealish played for Villa and like Grealish, to a degree, he needs a team built around him (this is one of the reasons I'm not so keen on him). Villa's struggles were/are in part due to not replacing Grealish with a like for like, instead they have tried to have this creativity more distributed, this hasn't quite clicked yet. Coutinho could allow them to 'revert to type' a bit more. Makes sense for the player and the team.

[gdm]

2 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

My thinking on this 

 

if players don’t want to come , more the fool them 

 

they can’t see the bigger picture and don’t have faith in their own ability 

 

Example 

Digne walks into the discussions and asks why he should sign , what’s the plan 

 

we tell him , we are looking to attract top players , we want to build a team to compete at the top 

if players don’t want to come and don’t grasp the situation 

 

I believe they don’t have confidence in their own ability to keep us up , don’t want to build something special and therefore can xxxx off 

I’m afraid this is our biggest problem. Is what it is we are a club 2nd bottom and these players will take one look at it and not fancy it 

[The Prophet]

I wouldn't blame any player who doesn't want to join us right now. We're 19th and still settling on the direction of the club.

 

At the same time I wouldn't waste my time trying to persuade them otherwise, move onto the next target down the list. We need players who want to be here.

[Guest]

While that’s fair enough, Digne has two options now (Chelsea & West Ham) where he could bypass ‘the journey’ and go straight there. Can’t begrudge him that, he’ll be first choice at either Chelsea until the summer competing in the top 3 and playing Champions League or West Ham permanently, competing in the top 5/6 and playing Europa League.

[HWTL]

How does ffp work with wages? Does it count or is that just transfer fees.

[Shearergol]

7 minutes ago, HWTL said:

How does ffp work with wages? Does it count or is that just transfer fees.

 

Wages count too.

[JonBez comesock]

6 minutes ago, gdm said:

I’m afraid this is our biggest problem. Is what it is we are a club 2nd bottom and these players will take one look at it and not fancy it 

Yes but if you are a player (you have to be able to back yourself) 

 

We can only move forward by signing good players , if they can’t see that themselves they are blinkered and do no back themselves 

 

If the player sits down and listens to the plan / future / potential signings …and the fact they club want to sign them (then surely if they rate themselves highly) they must think that the tide will turn ?

[JonBez comesock]

Obviously I am also blinkered as I love Newcastle 

[gdm]

Just now, JonBez comesock said:

Yes but if you are a player (you have to be able to back yourself) 

They may well back themselves but they may not back the current players that have got us 2nd bottom 

[Holmesy]

2 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

Yes but if you are a player (you have to be able to back yourself) 

 

We can only move forward by signing good players , if they can’t see that themselves they are blinkered and do no back themselves 

 

If the player sits down and listens to the plan / future / potential signings …and the fact they club want to sign them (then surely if they rate themselves highly) they must think that the tide will turn ?

It's not about backing yourself at all. Players who make it to the top level have no problem backing themselves. If we're mid-table this situation doesn't occur, it's an easy 'yes'. But, it's still quite likely we'll go down and players don't want a relegation on their CV, to play a year in the second tier or the disruption of moving to one club, only to move to another 6 months later when the first is relegated. To say they don't back themselves is oversimplifying the thought process.

They also have to look at the other players at the club - "do i back myself? Yes 100%. Do i back Gayle, Shelvey, Lascelles, Almiron, Longstaff etc? Fuck no"