J7 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I'd have OGS last of the lot. Absolutely nothing to suggest he's a good manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 10:45, Joey47 said: OGS 9th? Please explain? Genuinely curious. Expand He won the “got Man Utd into the Champions League with a team worth £500bn” trophy. Which is obviously far, far better than Ranieri’s PL winners medal with a team worth £50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) On 08/11/2021 at 10:47, JJ7 said: I'd have OGS last of the lot. Absolutely nothing to suggest he's a good manager. Expand Do you rate Potter? You know, the guy at the club with the 6th highest gross spend and the 9th highest net spend in the Premier League the past five seasons? Edited November 8, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 10:45, Joey47 said: OGS 9th? Please explain? Genuinely curious. Expand I'd have him about halfway to be fair. He's obviously no where near the likes of Klopp, Pep and Conte, but he's got a bit more about him than the likes of Dyche and Ranieri. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 10:51, Kaizero said: Do you rate Potter? Expand Quite highly from what I have seen and read. Brighton have come on a lot since Hughton left, who also did a good job. Their style of play is also good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) On 08/11/2021 at 10:55, JJ7 said: Quite highly from what I have seen and read. Brighton have come on a lot since Hughton left, who also did a good job. Their style of play is also good. Expand The guy at the club with the 6th highest gross spend and the 9th highest net spend in the Premier League the past five seasons? What is there to suggest he is a good manager? He almost got that team relegated last season. (I know his spell at Ostersund qualifies as suggesting he is a good manager, but a better performance by OGS in a league of the same standard apparently does not suggest OGS is a good manager at the same time as Potter being good - hence my annoyance) Edited November 8, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 10:56, Kaizero said: The guy at the club with the 6th highest gross spend and the 9th highest net spend in the Premier League the past five seasons? What is there to suggest he is a good manager? He almost got that team relegated last season. Expand They were 13 points clear of the relegation zone. He changed the way they played and improved throughout the season. They're now sitting 7th with only 2 defeats in 11 games. I think he's done a fairly impressive job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 10:56, Kaizero said: The guy at the club with the 6th highest gross spend and the 9th highest net spend in the Premier League the past five seasons? What is there to suggest he is a good manager? He almost got that team relegated last season. Expand They play some fantastic football, they create a lot of chances they just don't have a clinical striker to put them away. Regarding net spend, that's fair enough but their squad is still not great, they've come up from the championship and their squad needed/needs a lot of investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Yet Ranieri won the league with Leicester and finished 2nd with Chelsea, semi finals of the Champions League, won the Copa del Rey and the Coppa Italia and it's fine that he's not rated that highly by anyone either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Net spend doesn't really mean anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) On 08/11/2021 at 07:08, Froggy said: 1) Klopp 2) Conte 3) Pep 4) Tuchel 5) Rodgers 6) Benitez 7) Bielsa 8) Howe 9) OGS 10) Moyes 11) Hasenhuttl 12) Potter 13) Dyche 14) Ranieri 15) Arteta 16) Frank 17) Vieira 18) Lage Expand on a hiding to nothing by putting him anywhere but last, rightly or wrongly. Edited November 8, 2021 by Tomato Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1. Klopp 2. Guardiola 3. Conte 4. Tuchel 5. Benitez 6. Ranieri 7. Bielsa 8. Rodgers 9. Hassenhutl 10. Moyes 11. Lage 12. Frank 13. Potter 14. Dyche 15. Arteta 16. Vieira 17. Solskjaer Bottom half is difficult tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 11:03, kisearch said: Yet Ranieri won the league with Leicester and finished 2nd with Chelsea, semi finals of the Champions League, won the Copa del Rey and the Coppa Italia and it's fine that he's not rated that highly by anyone either. Expand Nobody can argue that what Ranieri did was a miracle but I think the fact he's been fairly average everywhere else is why people don't rate him that highly. Would anyone haven taken. him at NUFC? I wouldn't have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) On 08/11/2021 at 11:06, Joey47 said: Nobody can argue that what Ranieri did was a miracle but I think the fact he's been fairly average everywhere else is why people don't rate him that highly. Would anyone haven taken. him at NUFC? I wouldn't have. Expand Just goes to show how much it's often about being the right fit or right place at the right time. No one would have had Moyes where he is after Sunderland or before his West Ham renaissance. Edited November 8, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 1. Pep 2. Klopp 3. Tuchel 4. Conte 5. Benitez 6. Bielsa 7. Rodgers 8. Ranieri 9. Howe 10. Moyes 11. Hassenhuttl 12. Potter 13. Dyche 14. Arteta 15. Vieira 16. OGS Frank/Lage, don’t know enough about them Re: Ranieri, look at Sampdoria this season compared to last. The same players, different manager. Edited November 8, 2021 by Collage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I know its all opinions but shocked at anyone not putting Guardiola at number 1. Won 10 trophies at city to go with 21 at Barca and Bayern. Played probably the best football since Premier began 1. Guardiola 2. Klopp 3. Conte 4. Tuchel 5. Rodgers 6. Potter 7. Bielsa 8. Benitez 9. Moyes 10. Howe 11. Dyche 12. Hassenhuthl 13. Vieira 14. Solskjaer 15. Ranieri 16. Frank 17. Arteta 18. Lage (Too early to gage) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I think Klopp’s impact at Liverpool has been bigger than Guardiola’s at Man City, he’s done it with less money, and he’s also managed successfully at a lower level which I think should mean something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 11:40, Kimbo said: I think Klopp’s impact at Liverpool has been bigger than Guardiola’s at Man City, he’s done it with less money, and he’s also managed successfully at a lower level which I think should mean something. Expand This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 11:55, Kaizero said: Why is a high net spend being used as a negative for OGS then but not Potter? Expand I think you need to let go of this Potter-OGS thing, you seem obsessive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) On 08/11/2021 at 11:57, Collage said: I think you need to let go of this Potter-OGS thing, you seem obsessive Expand I am 100% obsessive. It's not logical and it annoys me to no end and I don't even like OGS. He steered the team I dislike most in Norway to a decade of success. I hope he crashes and burns. Just don't fucking praise Potter for the same things you'd bash OGS with, it makes no sense. It's dumb. I'll forever bite on that bait. Edited November 8, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 11:04, Tomato Deuce said: on a hiding to nothing by putting him anywhere but last, rightly or wrongly. Expand Yep. But putting him last is beyond idiotic and incredibly childish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 12:08, Froggy said: Yep. But putting him last is beyond idiotic and incredibly childish. Expand Thing is, I admit I might be wrong, but tactically I have him as one of the worst managers in the league. I also think he's done a really good job at Man United until this season too, its just someone has to come last Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 12:02, Kaizero said: I am 100% obsessive. It's not logical and it annoys me to no end and I don't even like OGS. He steered the team I dislike most in Norway to a decade of success. I hope he crashes and burns. Just don't fucking praise Potter for the same things you'd bash OGS with, it makes no sense. It's dumb. I'll forever bite on that bait. Expand OK. I believe he’s considered to be a good and forward-thinking tactician, his teams play what many would say is quite attractive football with a clear identity. I’m not a big fan and think he’s a bit overrated, btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I'd have OGS bottom even if Bruce was still in a job tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 12:13, wormy said: I'd have OGS bottom even if Bruce was still in a job tbh. Expand Now this is just pure bait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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