Thumbheed Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I think it's because the next 2 are clubs near to us plus 6 points from those 2 should mean even if we get nowt from December, then come January we shouldn't be too far adrift 12 points from 19 games would put us on what 17th place are on right now... Edit: having said that, I think Leeds fixture list is equally minging tbf Edited November 28, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 That would leave us needing 8 wins and maybe 2 or 3 draws to stay up from 19 games, seems a lot to try and get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Ketsbaia said: 4 points are a must from Norwich + Burnley but I'm chilled with this relegation compared to the last two - we've got rid of Bruce, we've got rid of Ashley. In 5 years time we'll be in a better position than what it'd be like under those twats. The sad thing is there will be a few supporters getting on now who've never seen us win anything and won't be here in 5 years time. Fingers crossed I've got another 30 years or so but you never know what the future holds in store for some of us....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Beth said: The sad thing is there will be a few supporters getting on now who've never seen us win anything and won't be here in 5 years time. Fingers crossed I've got another 30 years or so but you never know what the future holds in store for some of us....... I’m 34 and was dreaming of a trophy before I’m 40. I don’t know why 40 years old is significant, I was just being realistic when takeover happened and giving the new guys five years to turn things around. Relegation would be a set back for sure and I’m clinging to any hope that we can still turn this whole thing around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Need some results to go for us today - Everton, Spurs and Leicester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Beth said: The sad thing is there will be a few supporters getting on now who've never seen us win anything and won't be here in 5 years time. Fingers crossed I've got another 30 years or so but you never know what the future holds in store for some of us....... My Dad saw the Fairs cup win in 69 and continued to go all the way through till Rafa left. He`s 85 now and not in great health. I`m desperate for him to see some of the (hopefully) good times coming our way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Any manager will say you take each game at time, whoever's got what grueling December fixture pile up, versus four so called top six sides etc? It shouldn't matter, theres going to be hiccups along the way for all sides, players lost through injuries, bans, sudden loss of form. We need to concentrate on the game ahead, we also have a first transfer window with opportunity in over a decade. I'm not worried about Norwich or Burnley, I'd hope we beat them obviously, but I'm not convinced those games define our season. I'm not sure in the worst case, of Relegation, it's the end of the world, it could literally be the clean slate the owners and manager might need, and it will give them plenty of time to get absolutely everything in place to go forward. The scaremongering of the PIF will flog us, is ludicrous, they would have had to consider relegation a possibility upon purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The problem with relegation in just the lost time. It could easily take 2-3 seasons to get back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: The problem with relegation in just the lost time. It could easily take 2-3 seasons to get back up. So we went down twice with Mike Ashley, won the title and automatically promoted on both occasions. Where are you getting 2/3 seasons from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, mighty__mag said: So we went down twice with Mike Ashley, won the title and automatically promoted on both occasions. Where are you getting 2/3 seasons from? Well I mean, nobody can guarantee the future. It’s by no means certain we’ll come straight back up, so there’s 2. Just an estimate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) We only know of two relegations from the PL, and we know we won and returned at both times of asking. The owners are minted, and they would literally do what Ashley did, but better, retain some experience in the squad, and add to it. I cant predict the future, but from previous facts, I'd suggest we'd piss the Championship with these lot behind us. Edited November 28, 2021 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, mighty__mag said: We only know of two relegations from the PL, and we know we won and returned at both times of asking. The owners are minted, and they would literally do what Ashley did, but better, retain some experience in the squad, and add to it. I cant predict the future, but from previous facts, I'd suggest we'd piss the Championship with these lot behind us. HMS piss the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 10 hours ago, mighty__mag said: We only know of two relegations from the PL, and we know we won and returned at both times of asking. The owners are minted, and they would literally do what Ashley did, but better, retain some experience in the squad, and add to it. I cant predict the future, but from previous facts, I'd suggest we'd piss the Championship with these lot behind us. Considering our lowest ever finish in the PL era is first in the second tier (three times), it would be pretty sad if we broke that record as the richest club in the world! But we won't be relegated, so that record will be safe for a long time to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 18 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Well I mean, nobody can guarantee the future. It’s by no means certain we’ll come straight back up, so there’s 2. Just an estimate. Even if we do come straight back up, it still sets you back 2-3 years. Having to assemble a squad that will come up and then add to a newly promoted side. Bollocks to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Even if we do come straight back up, it still sets you back 2-3 years. Having to assemble a squad that will come up and then add to a newly promoted side. Bollocks to that. We already have half of a squad that needs replacing anyways, defence isn't even good enough to win the championship if you ask me and midfield needs looked at, we need better cover and options going forward, so big job over next few years no matter what happens but I'd prefer to do it from the Premier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) In some ways, going down could be a blessing. If we load the team with talented youngsters instead of journeyman at end of career, that could give a great boost. Could give the new team time to settle and build confidence Not saying I want to go down, but it just wont be end of the world Edited November 29, 2021 by arnonel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 23 hours ago, mighty__mag said: We only know of two relegations from the PL, and we know we won and returned at both times of asking. The owners are minted, and they would literally do what Ashley did, but better, retain some experience in the squad, and add to it. I cant predict the future, but from previous facts, I'd suggest we'd piss the Championship with these lot behind us. It's an interesting notion, being that supremely confident in our new owners and their motivations and willingness to invest, let alone the underlying presumption that they wouldn't perhaps look to sell the club off if we got relegated, especially if it looked like we'd not get back up at the first attempt. A lot of pretty big assumptions bouncing around at the moment, based on the size of the owner's wallets. We still know next to nothing about their real views of their new investment, its potential and the sorts of returns they want out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 A lot hinges on the next two, if we're still winless this time next week we're utterly fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, GM said: It's an interesting notion, being that supremely confident in our new owners and their motivations and willingness to invest, let alone the underlying presumption that they wouldn't perhaps look to sell the club off if we got relegated, especially if it looked like we'd not get back up at the first attempt. A lot of pretty big assumptions bouncing around at the moment, based on the size of the owner's wallets. We still know next to nothing about their real views of their new investment, its potential and the sorts of returns they want out of it. Wouldn't say I'm supremely confident, I'd say though, if a fucking Whopper like Mike Ashley can see that a swift return to the PL is good business, I'm confident these guys would. And besides nobody would buy us, these are hardly gonna sell at a loss. In summary, you think we dont know enough about these guys. Four years, yep four years spent trying to obtain us, I'm sure it wasn't a rash decision like Ashley who admittedly didn't really know what he was getting himself into, but still he got stuck with us for 14 years? And you're not sure, if these people will sell after 12 months? ?? Edited November 29, 2021 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Are there actually people out there that are worrying PIF might sell us off should we be relegated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Well until all three owners come out and say that 100% they wouldn't sell the club if we get relegated, it's always a possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 If I lived life with that attitude, I'd never fart in case I shit my pants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) The accumulation of points - (true-faith.co.uk) Pretty well summed up there. Edited November 29, 2021 by Karjala Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 One plus about having a horror fixture list in December is that there will be less expectancy. Basically any points we get will be seen as a bonus so hopefully that will free up the players pschologically to give it a good go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 17 hours ago, Away Toon said: Well until all three owners come out and say that 100% they wouldn't sell the club if we get relegated, it's always a possibility. No it's not. They didn't wait several years and loads of legal action to sell us a few months later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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