samptime29 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 A good day for us. Pleasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Bit of pressure taken off tomorrow, not sure if that's a good thing or not. I think we'll be okay now, like, injuries permitting. Over the last 10 games our form is 12th best in the league, and the level of improvement under Howe is only increasing by the match. Just can't see the three teams beneath us keeping pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Point is fine like I keep saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andy said: Bit of pressure taken off tomorrow, not sure if that's a good thing or not. I think we'll be okay now, like, injuries permitting. Over the last 10 games our form is 12th best in the league, and the level of improvement under Howe is only increasing by the match. Just can't see the three teams beneath us keeping pace. *could* mean he thinks it’s ok to start Bruno and rest Trippier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Down to a 3 after another day that was almost perfect for us results-wise. No bounce for Hodgson, Norwich being found out again, other teams getting dragged in and Brentford/Palace both in free fall. Win tomorrow and it’s a 2, lose and it’s back up to a 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I think it's crazy how anyone can be anything below a 5. We are improving but tomorrow is a seriously tough game. Then come West Ham. We need to be on 30 points by the time we have played Palace at the end of March, because the majority of the remaining games after that are brutal. Still a 7 for me, despite how results have gone this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I’m a 6… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I think it’s crazier that someone could think we’ve got a 70% chance of going down, to be honest. The bookies have us at 29% implied probability of relegation tonight (5/2), so much, much nearer a 3 than a 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Wandy said: I think it's crazy how anyone can be anything below a 5. We are improving but tomorrow is a seriously tough game. Then come West Ham. We need to be on 30 points by the time we have played Palace at the end of March, because the majority of the remaining games after that are brutal. Still a 7 for me, despite how results have gone this week. I think we're more likely to stay up than go down. So that means its under 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, HTT II said: I’m a 6… You think there's a 60% chance we'll go down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, Wandy said: I think it's crazy how anyone can be anything below a 5. We are improving but tomorrow is a seriously tough game. Then come West Ham. We need to be on 30 points by the time we have played Palace at the end of March, because the majority of the remaining games after that are brutal. Still a 7 for me, despite how results have gone this week. What would you rate out of 10 for the current bottom 3 clubs? I doubt you’d have any of them 5 or under, so can’t be surprised at Newcastle being 5 maximum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: What would you rate out of 10 for the current bottom 3 clubs? I doubt you’d have any of them 5 or under, so can’t be surprised at Newcastle being 5 maximum? Currently I'd say Burnley are an 8, Watford a 6, Norwich a 5 and us below 5, below 3 or 4 if we win tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: You think there's a 60% chance we'll go down? I’m a pessimist right now, I’ve been here twice before… our latter fixtures are horrendous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Just now, HTT II said: I’m a pessimist right now, I’ve been here twice before… our latter fixtures are horrendous! Last two times the club was largely fractured. Fractured for more or less the whole of 08-09, all of 15-16 bar the final 10 games. Our current fixtures up to the next international break are decent, plus we still have to play Everton, Norwich and Burnley to play again. Also, if we continue on Howe's current PPG rate, we'll finish on 36 points which may be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I don't think Burnley will catch us, the gap is 4 points and they've only won 1 all season. They've got 2 games in hand but I'm not sure who they're going to beat in order to catch us. Watford look awful, have played a game more and are already 3 points behind. They'll not pass us. Norwich are the only one in slightly worried about. They're a point behind, 2 if you factor in their awful gd, have played 2 games more than us and only scored 14 goals in 24 but they look like they're making a bit of a fist of it. I just don't think they'll get 2 more points than us in 2 games fewer. A win tomorrow almost certainly sorts us out and puts clear space between the bottom 3. We're not there yet but I reckon I'm about a 2.5 right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, Wandy said: I think it's crazy how anyone can be anything below a 5. We are improving but tomorrow is a seriously tough game. Then come West Ham. We need to be on 30 points by the time we have played Palace at the end of March, because the majority of the remaining games after that are brutal. Still a 7 for me, despite how results have gone this week. Crazy to think there's less than a 50% chance Yes, there's a fair chance we go down, but 70%...That's just totally irrational, look at the table. There's a right load of masturbational pessimism in here sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Wild the difference two wins on the hop makes. Suddenly the season looks far brighter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I cannot stop looking at the league table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: What would you rate out of 10 for the current bottom 3 clubs? I doubt you’d have any of them 5 or under, so can’t be surprised at Newcastle being 5 maximum? Think they are all on a 7, like us, to be honest. I just think its impossible to say who will drop at the moment. One other team will definitely get dragged into it though over the next few weeks. At the moment that looks to be Brentford. People seem to be basing their confidence on us keeping all of our key players fit but that is impossible to predict too. If we win tomorrow though I will definitely come down to a 6, maybe even a 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wandy said: Think they are all on a 7, like us, to be honest. I just think its impossible to say who will drop at the moment. One other team will definitely get dragged into it though over the next few weeks. At the moment that looks to be Brentford. People seem to be basing their confidence on us keeping all of our key players fit but that is impossible to predict too. If we win tomorrow though I will definitely come down to a 6, maybe even a 5. You know only three teams go down right? Confidence is based on the fact we're not in the relegation zone, we've played fewer games than two of them (and the one that has games on us has won once all season), our actual form under Howe has not been relegation form, and our form under Howe is also significantly better than teams above us in terrible form (Brentford, Palace.) We might go down, but the idea that it's more likely than not that we finish in the bottom three is not based on anything in the table or on the pitch. Soz like but I get too wound up by this active wallowing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Yeah agreed on fitness. We’re very susceptible to one/two key injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 The last time I posted in here, I said I wasn't too confident but if we pulled it off it would be one hell of a ride. I'm sticking with that and strapping myself in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Since 3 out of the bottom 4 go down, do they all not start at 75% chance and anything lower is confident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Inferior Acuña said: You know only three teams go down right? Confidence is based on the fact we're not in the relegation zone, we've played fewer games than two of them (and the one that has games on us has won once all season), our actual form under Howe has not been relegation form, and our form under Howe is also significantly better than teams above us in terrible form (Brentford, Palace.) We might go down, but the idea that it's more likely than not that we finish in the bottom three is not based on anything in the table or on the pitch. Soz like but I get too wound up by this active wallowing. I just think that you cant pick a survivor from the four teams yet. I'm not getting carried away by the last two games. Yes, we now have a bit of momentum but I guarantee that a defeat tomorrow will result in a lot of posters giving a score over 5. As it happens though, I will stay on a 7 if we do lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 We’re better than the other 3 contenders, Howe’s got us on just over a point a game now which would be enough between now and the end of the season to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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