HaydnNUFC Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Aye. It worked well enough before the World Cup, on the ball we'd essentially settle into a 3-5-2 with Willock and Joelinton switching to provide the width on the left hand side, while Almiron pushed up closer to Wilson. It worked when teams came at us or had an unorganised defensive set up, but it became too easy to shut out. The logical alternative feels like it should be pushing ASM up top as one of the two, but then you need to work out how to keep the width. Him and Isak could be dynamite going forwards though. Isak with 1 or a couple attacking partners close to him I feel would give us a bit more against sides that sit deep; we saw glimpses of it against Fulham (h) when he came on and played with Wilson against a team who retreated a further 5-10 yards after their pen miss, we had a bit more impetus carrying the ball towards good positions around the box yesterday and I thought Isak and Maxi have linked up well against Liverpool and at Southampton in the cup. He just needs to be in the team from the start. So does ASM imo, Almiron's poor form has coincided with our poor form in front of goal. Something needs to be tweaked. ASM also I think will be useful at Man City on Saturday, he is at his best running at players on the break at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 The problem doesn’t lie with Trips Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Would like to see those over time though, I can't believe it hasn't got a lot worse recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Apparently we've scored 2 goals from our last 100 corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I’ve always subscribed to the idea that short corners are better, just my opinion of course but that stat is minging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 https://sqaf.club/goals-from-corners-stats/ lots of context of course, but corners are generally not a reliable goal scoring chance, I would rather work a short corner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Think it's quite well known with stats nerds that corners aren't very dangerous in general. They are a free chance to cross, but that's about it. I never really get excited about them, especially with the poor aerial players we have. Edited February 27, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I imagine you could improve on that conversion percentage fairly significantly by signing players who can actually head the ball. Or even coaching players who can't head the ball, to head the ball. We seem to do neither but continue to hoy the ball into the box regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Remember reading a football stats book, maybe 10 years ago, where they had stats showing that you so seldom score from corners by crossing the ball in to the box, so it’s better to play it short to keep possession in the opposing half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 It's bit like direct free kick shots. On raw stats you would stop shooting, but in a game where a shot is hard to manufacture it might still be preferable to shoot from the free kick. Suppose corners could be similar, even if it's 3% chance to score, you could argue that it's a free 3% so it's worth taking it. Just don't get too excited about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Well that's all kind of a nonsense because a short corner or a short free kick is much easier to defend if you know the other team isn't going to plant it in the box or try and shoot. You have to make the opposition defend against all possibilities and part of that is changing up what you do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Yeah 'course, other things to factor in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Cannot stand Trippiers delay when we have four in there box and just plays it back. It makes no sense at all. Plus his long ball to Crouch (burn) is not baring fruits. Needs to sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 What I'd give for him to be just a few years younger. He'd be an asset for any club in the World. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 13 hours ago, The Butcher said: What I'd give for him to be just a few years younger. He'd be an asset for any club in the World. That's why we have him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I think Targett coming back in will be huge for us in terms of set pieces. It'll split the corner-taking duties and should naturally lead to greater variation in our routines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, NEEJ said: I think Targett coming back in will be huge for us in terms of set pieces. It'll split the corner-taking duties and should naturally lead to greater variation in our routines. Will even increase our tactical stability and flexibility on set pieces, with Tripper waiting on the far side to defend or re-distribute rather than sprinting back across the pitch into position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Don’t know what the actual stats say but he’s hitting first man on corners and rarely finding players on set pieces. He’s being complacent as fuck with his short passing and it’s costing us. Desperate for him to have a rest to recharge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 We relied massively on him at the start of the season. It’s no surprise that our form has gone to shit now his has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: We relied massively on him at the start of the season. It’s no surprise that our form has gone to shit now his has It’s also no coincidence that his dip in form has perfectly married up with Almiron’s. Giving him a rest at some point and sharing the set piece load (Targett?) would surely help him regain his from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Needs a rest, liability for awhile and has cost us a few goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) It must have started prior to the WC but maybe we gave him the benefit of the doubt. He was noticeably by in possession for give aways in the WC though and its just kept on from there. Also compounded with his sub par set pieces by his standards. He is clocking on and can't play this many games without a rest. Hope ashby is ready. Edited March 4, 2023 by toontownman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Gave away possession tonnes today and has done fairly often since the turn of the year imho. Set pieces poor. Again. Quite the decline from his early season form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Time to give manquillo a run out and let trips have a breather Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, andycap said: Time to give manquillo a run out and let trips have a breather Got pelters for saying this at the end of Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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