Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 The idea that selling Trippier for £12m unlocks 2 long term transfers is fanciful imo. It’s Trippier out and a hard running, dribbly CM in for £30m. Thats it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 54 minutes ago, The Prophet said: To be fair, I agree with both sides of the argument. It would definitely hurt us short term, but I can also see why the club might be alright with him leaving. Personally, unless the fee is too good to turn down (£20 millon plus), I'd keep him. This ^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 It's clear as day Trippier is the biggest leader in and ambassador of that team, like. To claim otherwise or say there's others who do/would do that job as well if he left is dogs doodoo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 23 minutes ago, Weezertron said: Having a 33 year old right back as your most creative player is surely a concern of its own too. It’s an issue that will have to be fixed in year, if not sooner anyway. Fwiw, I thought he’d retire here and I’d still be happy with that. It is a concern long term. If we sell him now, it’s a concern short term too. Selling Trippier is far from ideal. If we must do it to get a CM with Joelinton out - so be it. I guess. I blame Tonali and Eddie’s lack of player care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 What in the Ready To Groom has been going on these last two pages Walked into a warzone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 23 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: You nasty little snivelling shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Disco reading this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It is a concern long term. If we sell him now, it’s a concern short term too. Selling Trippier is far from ideal. If we must do it to get a CM with Joelinton out - so be it. I guess. I blame Tonali and Eddie’s lack of player care. Good beginning, decent middle. Ending needs work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: The idea that selling Trippier for £12m unlocks 2 long term transfers is fanciful imo. It’s Trippier out and a hard running, dribbly CM in for £30m. Thats it. Could it feasibly unlock one permanent transfer and a loan to buy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Not to wade too deep into the waters but it’s helpful to actually take on board criticism sometimes Kaka. Just because people disagree with you, it doesn’t mean you need to laugh at them or act like they don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. We’re all just throwing round our own opinions on here with no way of really verifying any of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Hope he’s banished to train with the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, Chapo said: Hope he’s banished to train with the reserves. Which part of the forum is that? And how long is Kaka banished there for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: Which part of the forum is that? And how long is Kaka banished there for? I’d hate to see the quality of the reserves if we’re the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 And to think I figured this thread couldn't get shitter until a sale actually happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Just now, wormy said: And to think I figured this thread couldn't get shitter until a sale actually happened. It's just hotting up. I'm getting death threats and I've hardly posted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: It's just hotting up. I'm getting death threats and I've hardly posted! Sorry again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 (edited) Ok, here is my 2 cents. People keep on banging on about Trippier staying to coach, being good around the squad etc. However there is no indication that he is going to go down that path, and if he is, if it is with us. A year ago people were saying the same about Ritchie, and now with FFP being tight, people are realising that having him on the books in terms of wages is possibly holding us back. If we are looking to improve in this window then we have only a few sellable players at the club we could get some money from, these are Trippier, Wilson, Joelinton, Bruno, Isak, and Botman. The last 3 are the ones people think/hope have a long term future here. Trippier is coming to the end of his career. We already know that he can’t cope with 2+ games a week. In fact for a few months now people have been saying his performances have dropped a bit, and his set pieces have been an issue for longer. With Wilson, yeah he is great when he’s fit, but he’s always in and out of fitness. Like Trippier he is coming towards the end of his career, and at a time when we should be looking to replace him. I’m not sure what the club are thinking, but from my perspective, I’d rather lose be losing Trippier, and Wilson now, then lose either of the other 3, plus Tonali in the summer. This also isn’t an Ashley situation where you know we are not going to replace either of those players, ok we might have to wait until the summer because of others clubs being reluctant to sell, but we will replace them. In the case of Trippier we arguably already have. Edited January 21, 2024 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: It's just hotting up. I'm getting death threats and I've hardly posted! it's about the lives you've destroyed when you have posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 (edited) Haven't kept up much in the last couple of days but I am also leaning towards the sell if there is a good offer made (and this doesn't in any way disregard his contribution, presence, quality etc.) He came in, helped keep us up, helped us qualify for CL and can leave with his head high. I don't think he has many years left at this level given his age so if it means selling to be able to free up to buy more and especially if this season means we aren't finishing like last season then yeah, we may not get another chance to recoup what we can for him more so than now. I do completely understand for some on here sentiment getting in the way and even more than that as he is top quality but age is not on his side and neither if FFP on our side. Edited January 21, 2024 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 27 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Disco reading this Well it's made me laugh at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 How does the idea we can spend 3x what we bring in from sales to keep within FFP rules work? I only have a very basic understanding of FFP, but as I understand it's related to a rolling 3 year loss with player purchase transfer fees amortised over contract lengths (maximum 5 years), but income from player sales being recognised at time of transaction (less remaining book value) From this I would imagine there are 2 aspects to ensuring we stay within the FFP relegations if we're already at the 3 year loss limit to the period ending at the end of this season (assuming the financial years are by football season, not calendar year): A) Running an overall break-even over the 3 year period - £15m income means that we would be able to amortise £15m over a 3 year period - with the 5-year amortisation rule this would allow us to sign a player for £25m. However, this doesn't take into account growing commercial revenue and prior year losses falling off the rolling year 3 year period. B) If we're confident of a increase in commercial revenue and possibly seeing this as an opportunity to boost our short-term FFP position to bring forward a summer signing, then the £15m income could technically fund a £150m player purchase as only 1/10th of their transfer fee would be amortised before the end of the season and break-even with the possible Trippier sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 52 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: We are some dysfunctional family here. Love you all nonetheless. Except Mr. Raspberry Jam, who is a known rapist. fully lost it at this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 1 hour ago, KaKa said: The guy is telling me to shut the fuck up and get fucked over absolutely nothing. You are ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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