nufc123 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Beth said: RB is about the only area we have plenty of cover in. Tino, Krafth and Ashby to come back as well. We'd be getting back what we paid for him and I think he wants to go. Stop the Ashby cover talk. Hes not ready at all, and I dont think he ever will be. Edited January 23, 2024 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Beth said: RB is about the only area we have plenty of cover in. Tino, Krafth and Ashby to come back as well. We'd be getting back what we paid for him and I think he wants to go. What we paid for him was a joke, he's one of the best RBs in the world, regardless of age, one of the best assisters and chance creators in the league, and essentially our captain. All of the fees mentioned are a pittance. Edited January 23, 2024 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Menace said: Ashby and Krafth aren't good enough though. So we'd still need to strengthen if he leaves. Tino Livramento. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: There's no realistic bid that's worth it. For me it would be like £40m to make it worth doing which is obviously not realistic and from my perspective the exact point. In normal circumstances where we didn't have FFP and we had unlimited resources then I'd agree just refuse any bid until it got to stupid money. However our theoretical infinite resources are artificially limited by the restrictions in place. We need to sell players to keep moving forward and to keep signing players, otherwise we are going to be hamstrung. From an accounting perspective even a £20 million sale can unlock significant investment in the transfer market. This is why we have to consider selling aging players, even if they're influential like Trippier is. By the time next season starts he is 34. I'm convinced it would look like a good sale in hindsight if it went through, even if painful in the short term. Edited January 23, 2024 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Theregulars said: It's interesting how few people question / insult Luke Edwards when he tweets something we like. Let me restore some balance. The bald pervert can piss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Stop the Ashby cover talk. Hes not ready at all, and I dont think he ever will be. He'd be 3rd choice anyway ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, MagMal said: Got to protect that loyalty bonus!. At the end of the day he is an employee of the club, if the club decides it wants a different employee then so be it, but if it doesn't work out they will get pelters from everyone. As others have said I don't want to loose him but we have got to learn to trust the new owners after years of the Ashley Stockholm syndrome. If he is desperate he can always take the Modric route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 We seemed to have rejected this bid almost immediately; it’s clear we have a figure in mind which we will let him go for, and not a penny less, I guess it’s in the 16-20 million pounds region Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: It's interesting how few people question / insult Luke Edwards when he tweets something we like. Is it something we like? I bet plenty would sell. It's probably more he's presenting the party line (along with other outlets) without being an antagonistic tit. His hit rate for exclusives is still pretty woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, Beth said: He'd be 3rd choice anyway ffs. Yes but if Livramento gets injured he cant be relied on. Krafth is gone in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Is it something we like? I bet plenty would sell. It's probably more he's presenting the party line (along with other outlets) without being an antagonistic tit. His hit rate for exclusives is still pretty woeful. Good question. My assumption and read is that most on here prefer him to stay but understand the money side if he goes; some (fewer) think it's time to cash in. To me, this Summer feels like the earliest plausible time to move him on. I don't think the club has any intention of writing the season off and he's an automatic starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yes but if Livramento gets injured he cant be relied on. Krafth is gone in the summer. By the summer we would have the funds to buy another RB prospect if we feel we have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, nufc123 said: Stop the Ashby cover talk. Hes not ready at all, and i dont think he ever will be. "Not ready" is such an understatement. Lad is 22 and can't even get a regular game for Swansea I wouldn't worry from a sporting perspective if we sold Trippier. Krafth is adequate cover for the rest of the season, and then his contract expires which allows us to get cover for Livramento in the summer. I'm more worried about what we lose out on with not having Trippier here off the field, but then again, if the plan isn't to include him in backroom staff set up after his contract expires, we would only have one season left with him anyway so might as well plan for the future now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yes but if Livramento gets injured he cant be relied on. Krafth is gone in the summer. We could offer him another year, we've done it with older useless deadwood like Ritchie and Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: Good question. My assumption and read is that most on here prefer him to stay but understand the money side if he goes; some (fewer) think it's time to cash in. To me, this Summer feels like the earliest plausible time to move him on. I don't think the club has any intention of writing the season off and he's an automatic starter. My view is that if we don't want to write the season off we need to bring in at least one midfielder, and the only way we can do that is to sell. Whether that's Trips or Miggy. Or both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Krafth is good enough as back up, if he leaves in the summer then we look to replace then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Beth said: We could offer him another year, we've done it with older useless deadwood like Ritchie and Dummett. Dummett been good when called upon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, TRon said: By the summer we would have the funds to buy another RB prospect if we feel we have to. Talk about the Gladbach RB wasnt it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, tgarve said: Dummett been good when called upon Yes, all one and a half games this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Beth said: We could offer him another year, we've done it with older useless deadwood like Ritchie and Dummett. We could, but Dummett and Ritchie are a little bit different. Local and leader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 I'm convinced we won't sell Trippier, it's that simple. He'd have to force the move himself, and I don't think he would right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: In normal circumstances where we didn't have FFP and we had unlimited resources then I'd agree just refuse any bid until it got to stupid money. However our theoretical infinite resources are artificially limited by the restrictions in place. We need to sell players to keep moving forward and to keep signing players, otherwise we are going to be hamstrung. From an accounting perspective even a £20 million sale can unlock significant investment in the transfer market. This is why we have to consider selling aging players, even if they're influential like Trippier is. By the time next season starts he is 34. I'm convinced it would look like a good sale in hindsight if it went through, even if painful in the short term. I understand the reasoning behind it, but for me it doesn't feel remotely worth it for what we'd even gain from losing him. Add to that that the team bidding is one who barely has to consider FFP and recently paid £90m for a 30 year old with a year left on his contract and I don't see the value doing it for the amount being touted and the spending it frees up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, Beth said: Yes, all one and a half games this season. He was good v Man City was it though? suprised he wasn’t used a little bit v psg or Chelsea when we needed to hang on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Expect we will deal on £15-17m. Whether they push that high we shall see. Haven't we been linked with a couple of RBs the last couple of months. I'm sure we will have a game plan for all potential player departures. That's Ashworth and his teams job. Also one he excelled at down at Brighton. The youth system was in better shape than ours though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Replacing Trippier with Livramento isn't that straight forward, trippier makes 90 passes a game, is one of the most creative players in terms of key passes and crosses per game in the league, its tough to replace that I'm now thinking its not really worth taking the cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now